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Q: OK, Im talking about a 100GB _pure_ . No applications are installed just for the pure data (MP3s, pictures, etc.). I think RAID-1 hard drives and get them 2×5400rpm cuz theyre cheap and they are not in the same period unlikely.

I rather think that the cheapest way cuz a would be more expensive.

Your opinions are welcome .


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Re:Originally posted by: guy
don't forget backup software.

I love stomp inc.'s backup my PC software for desktop use. just set it up to backup evry night to the removable drive

well the normal xcopy can do that from windows I think :)


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Re:Originally posted by: guy
don't forget backup software.

I love stomp inc.'s backup my PC software for desktop use. just set it up to backup evry night to the removable drive
How does it work? Is it an imaging backup or does it actually copy files?


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Re:don't forget backup software.

I love stomp inc.'s backup my PC software for desktop use. just set it up to backup evry night to the removable drive


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Re:Originally posted by: guy
guy:

The second HD on firewire is basically a tape drive kind of scenario: It's offline storage, just cheaper and faster than a tape or CD drive.

Pluses:
Protects you from deleted or corrupted files (including viruses)
Cost effective
Data recovery very easy (plug in drive, copy file(s) back)

Minuses:
Requires manual process to back up/copy data. (Note, you could leave it connected overnight, and schedule a nightly batch file to copy files over)
If HD0 crashes, you will have downtime while you rebuild your system.
Data only recoverable if it was captured on the last "backup"

OK, I think that's the route I'm gonna go :) Thanks.


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Re:guy:

The second HD on firewire is basically a tape drive kind of scenario: It's offline storage, just cheaper and faster than a tape or CD drive.

Pluses:
Protects you from deleted or corrupted files (including viruses)
Cost effective
Data recovery very easy (plug in drive, copy file(s) back)

Minuses:
Requires manual process to back up/copy data. (Note, you could leave it connected overnight, and schedule a nightly batch file to copy files over)
If HD0 crashes, you will have downtime while you rebuild your system.
Data only recoverable if it was captured on the last "backup"


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Re:Lowest cost: 2 x 120 GB, 1 internal, 1 in removable caddy in 5.25" bay. No RAID, no controller card, no encryption that's tied to a specific install of Windows. Firewire or USB 2.0 would also work well for a little extra cost.

This is a bit safer than RAID as long as you copy new files regularly, since you're better protected against a power-supply failure, a folder delte by accident, and a virus wiping your disks. Also against theft if you keep the drive away from the PC.


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Re:Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy

Raid-1 them and get 2×5400rpm harddisks I second that. Good plan. You will still get the 2x read speed (if you ever need it …) and an automatic backup.

You are seriously confused. He would get double read speed with RAID0, not on RAID1.

Apparently you are confused. Raid 1 reads from both disks at once, giving you 2x. (still 1x on write, and 1x capacity tho) (edit: read over here (http://www.{$MySite}/guides/viewfaq.html?i=110))


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Re:what about an internal 100GB HDand an external firewire 100GB HD which I just disconnect when I don't need it? That would be kinda safe and secure, right?

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Re:Originally posted by: guy
What do you mean by "safe"? Do you mean…"If one hd fails, I won't lose my data, and I won't have any downtime" or do you mean…"If a trojan infects my machine (or I accidentally format my HD), I can restore my data from yesterday, and suffer a little downtime, but have all my files"

Different problems require different solutions.

true, I'm not sure yet. That's why I'm thinking about maybe a non-Raid setup now. Is it somehow possible in Windows XP to really protect harddisk that no one can access it, only with a hardcore password?


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Re:What do you mean by "safe"? Do you mean…"If one hd fails, I won't lose my data, and I won't have any downtime" or do you mean…"If a trojan infects my machine (or I accidentally format my HD), I can restore my data from yesterday, and suffer a little downtime, but have all my files"

Different problems require different solutions.


Re:Originally posted by: guy

Raid-1 them and get 2×5400rpm harddisks I second that. Good plan. You will still get the 2x read speed (if you ever need it …) and an automatic backup.

Another strategy is to setup nightly imaging of the data drive to the second one (instead of RAID). That way you can recover a file even if you erased it due to your own mistake, and in case of failure you lose only 1 day of mp3's.

You are seriously confused. He would get double read speed with RAID0, not on RAID1.


Re:Originally posted by: guy

guy:
I only use it for personal storage, why would I need more? I'm not a pr0n collector. For personal use you shouldn't have more. IMHO even 100GB is alot, but by today's drive standards 100GB isn't much. From the subject of your thread I was expecting you to want a multi-TB array that would actually be a challenge.

Thorin

nah, I just used "array" cuz an Raid contains array in it :)


Re:guy:
I only use it for personal storage, why would I need more? I'm not a pr0n collector. For personal use you shouldn't have more. IMHO even 100GB is alot, but by today's drive standards 100GB isn't much. From the subject of your thread I was expecting you to want a multi-TB array that would actually be a challenge.

Thorin


Re:Originally posted by: guy

Raid-1 them and get 2×5400rpm harddisks I second that. Good plan. You will still get the 2x read speed (if you ever need it …) and an automatic backup.

Another strategy is to setup nightly imaging of the data drive to the second one (instead of RAID). That way you can recover a file even if you erased it due to your own mistake, and in case of failure you lose only 1 day of mp3's.

hm, good idea actually. But I trust myself, that I don't delete stuff per accident ;) But you're right, 2 seperate drives are better actually…. decisions, decisions.


Re:Raid-1 them and get 2×5400rpm harddisks I second that. Good plan. You will still get the 2x read speed (if you ever need it …) and an automatic backup.

Another strategy is to setup nightly imaging of the data drive to the second one (instead of RAID). That way you can recover a file even if you erased it due to your own mistake, and in case of failure you lose only 1 day of mp3's.


Re:Originally posted by: guy
your lookin for a promise fastrack tx2 100/133 pci card there amigo.
buy 2 x western digital jb 120gb 8mb cache and run a 0+1 array (stripe+mirror) this way u have all your data dynamically mirrored/backed up/stoed whatever u wanna call it :-) on the second ide channnel on the identical hard drive in real time. so if 1 fails, the other takes over, u then swap faulty drive and promise controller rebuilds array (or mirrors the healthy disk) for ya onto new drive, hot swap i believe, correct me if i am wrong.

i believe this is exactly what u would want/need for your purpose, and a nice setup as well if ya can have it with 2 WDJB`s runnin on aa-100 :-)
hope this helps

anything else, i will check back.

all the best in yur plans,

you're sure you can make a 0+1 array with only two drives? ;) You need 4 drives for Raid 0+1 :) And I don't think IDE harddrives are hot-swapable without a special module/etc. but yeah, I might get 2×120GB harddisks.

guy:
I only use it for personal storage, why would I need more? I'm not a pr0n collector.


Re:100GB is nothing. Get two 60GB drives and a controller and you're laughing.

Thorin


Re:your lookin for a promise fastrack tx2 100/133 pci card there amigo.
buy 2 x western digital jb 120gb 8mb cache and run a 0+1 array (stripe+mirror) this way u have all your data dynamically mirrored/backed up/stoed whatever u wanna call it :-) on the second ide channnel on the identical hard drive in real time. so if 1 fails, the other takes over, u then swap faulty drive and promise controller rebuilds array (or mirrors the healthy disk) for ya onto new drive, hot swap i believe, correct me if i am wrong.

i believe this is exactly what u would want/need for your purpose, and a nice setup as well if ya can have it with 2 WDJB`s runnin on aa-100 :-)
hope this helps

anything else, i will check back.

all the best in yur plans,


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