Q: Say I want a server just for home use . how would I do that? Im on cable, my ip is not changed for months now, it would be possible? Im on linux tax . It would be nice to have everythign just like webmail, so we can all check . If anyone knows how to do this please post:)
EDIT: I would run on a dedicated machine . not sure what I should do it, I would www.NICK.com address to use this? or would the email addy as ccrunnernb@10.5.787.555.com somethign like that?
Best Answer: You need to add a MX record to your DNS. The MX record tells the send which MTA (Mail Transfer Agent) to send your mail to. You need to have a properly configured MTA in order to receive mail. It does not matter if the MTA is on the same IP address as the web server.
Generally if you purchase a web hosting account email comes with it (e.g. godaddy).
If you want to set up your own dedicated mail server you will need to install your own MTA. This is not a simple process so I suggest you buy the service from someone (e.g. godaddy).
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Re:im using sendmail.. how do i get it to relay to my cable mail server?
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
1. Install postfix
2. Use your isp's mail server as a relay (to avoid blacklisting and reverse dns mismatch that spam filters might consider red flag). relayhost = your.isps.mail.server in main.cf.
Works great for me.
Works great when it's just you, what happens when you start making e-mail accounts for all your friends and before you know it you are sending 100+ e-mails a day through your ISP's mail server, will they have a problem with that?
Not that I'm saying this is going to be an issue for everyone, but something to keep in mind.
-Spy
Yeah, definitely. You can often get away fine with a webserver, mail server (and even in my case, dns :Q) on a home broadband connection, but going overboard is just asking to get the smack down from your ISP ![]()
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Re:I apologize in advance for sounding old and grumpy (I'm neither)…
You really need to take some time and learn before setting this up.
Despite its humble appearance, email is not simple. It's not rocket science, but it's also not something to cough up on a slow night, guided only by 5 line replies on a forum. Take it piece by piece, and make sure you understand each one reasonably well before continuing. Here's the order I would proceed in – each one is thoroughly documented around the web, so get ready for some reading…
1) DNS – you don't have to set up a DNS server, but you should know what Resource Records look like and what they do. Use dig to view forward and reverse DNS info for your site and others. Know what MX, CNAME, A, and PTR records are.
2) MTA (outgoing) – set up an MTA (Postfix, Sendmail, qmail, etc.), with the initial goal simply of sending mail. Test it out by sending mail to your mailbox at the ISP using the mail command, and examine the headers of those message to see what's going on. This will be a good time to learn what a relay is, and why you generally don't want to be one.
3) MTA/local delivery – before you get into POP/IMAP, send yourself mail at your new address from your ISP box and read it locally with mutt or mail to make sure the server is receiving mail properly.
4) IMAP/POP/remote delivery – now set up POP/IMAP, which is usually pretty easy, and find out how to deal with the quirks of your mail clients, which is sometimes not so easy.
4.5) Web server – if you haven't already, set up Apache and learn how to configure it. Most webmail packages aren't going to require anything too complicated here, so don't get too hung up on the gory details.
5) Webmail – Now set up the webmail of your choice. If all the other stuff works, this part is usually just following some simple directions.
If you have no experience in any of those areas, expect the whole process to take about a week of off-and-on work if you do a good job. Many of the details will be specific to your site, so you need to read between the lines a little bit. Probably the best thing you can get from other people at the outset are "known-good" combinations of mail programs. Most programs can be made to work together, but due to minor differences some are less cooperative than others. You want the cooperative ones the first time around. Several combos have been mentioned already. I'll add "Sendmail-Procmail-Courier-IMP" to that list.
Have fun…
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Re:well we can get however many email we need for the cable, but I don't wanna deal with setting up Outlook for 5 diffrent people so i thought i'd make something like this, webaccess email.. sounds good to me.. still looking for some definite help
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
1. Install postfix
2. Use your isp's mail server as a relay (to avoid blacklisting and reverse dns mismatch that spam filters might consider red flag). relayhost = your.isps.mail.server in main.cf.
Works great for me.
Works great when it's just you, what happens when you start making e-mail accounts for all your friends and before you know it you are sending 100+ e-mails a day through your ISP's mail server, will they have a problem with that?
Not that I'm saying this is going to be an issue for everyone, but something to keep in mind.
-Spy
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
There was an article on Slashdot (I think that's where it was) a few months ago that stated that ISPs were beginning to refuse email originating from mail servers hosted from any of the large IP address ranges used by cable and DSL users. So if you run an SMTP server on your own box and your box is assigned one of these IP address (which is likely), then there's a good chance that your emails might not reach their destination. Unless, of course, they've decided to stop this type of filtering.
The supposed reason for this is to limit the spread of spam and email viruses from unauthorized and/or improperly secured SMTP servers.
This happened to me. First, AOL rejected my messages with an undeliverable return email. Sprynet did the same. Most recently, ev1.net just silently dropped the email.
My solution was to set up my mail server to use my ISP's mail server as a relay. So far that's working.
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Re:Many ISP's are also blocking outbound port 25. If that's the case with yours, you'll need to relay through their mailserver anyway like the post above mentioned.
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Re:1. Install postfix
2. Use your isp's mail server as a relay (to avoid blacklisting and reverse dns mismatch that spam filters might consider red flag). relayhost = your.isps.mail.server in main.cf.
Works great for me. ![]()
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Re:thats great and all, but we'll see as soon as i can find some howto's and what not.. something easy i hope
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Re:There was an article on Slashdot (I think that's where it was) a few months ago that stated that ISPs were beginning to refuse email originating from mail servers hosted from any of the large IP address ranges used by cable and DSL users. So if you run an SMTP server on your own box and your box is assigned one of these IP address (which is likely), then there's a good chance that your emails might not reach their destination. Unless, of course, they've decided to stop this type of filtering.
The supposed reason for this is to limit the spread of spam and email viruses from unauthorized and/or improperly secured SMTP servers.
Re:just hope your IP address block (Cable internet) isnt blacklisted
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Re:OK, i just installed mandrake, running webmin… so how do i go about configuring.. and what should I set my hostname too.. the dydns?
Re:im looking to setup a webmail service really
the dydns is bake.dydns.org so the email would be USERNAME@bake.dydns.org
now how would i set this up on a server.. and shoudl I just install like redhat 9.0 as a server?
Give me something to go on for this route..
Re:I setup postfix for SMTP, Courier-IMAP for IMAP access, procmail for server side filtering and HORDE IMP for webmail.
You need a domain, you could use the hostname or IP you have with your ISP but it's probably not very easy to remember. DynDNS would work, or you could just register a domain normally and update the DNS manually if your IP ever changes.
Re:I've done quite a bit with setting up my own servers. if you only want a mail server, I just have sendmail, imap, and squirrelmail running. it probably took me a good 30 minutes to an hour to get it set and running, but you have to make sure that your dns is set up.
to find out what your hostname is right now, go to the command line, and type:
nslookup <ip address>
This will let you know what would be trailing your email address. If you register a domain, you will have to set up bind on your machine, this is not that hard. I can pm you if you want more in depth information on setting it up.
Re:I'm not a Linux user but there are a lot of mail server packages. Sendmail and SquirrelMail are the only ones that come to mind for me right now. You need to make sure your ISP allows you to have a server first. Configure your router (if you have one, to open port 25 and 110 for SMTP and POP) and you should be good to go. If you have a domain name to use, then it would be djoe@domainname.com. If you don't have one, it would be easier than remembering IP addresses. Check out DynDNS (http://www.dyndns.org). Hope this helps.
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