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Re:Well I would like the best (or damn good performance) for my money @ DDR500 and above. From what I heave read the OCZ VX and Crucial Balistix are some of the best for that. This is going to be an overclocking rig and a performance rig when it comes to the CPU and memory and motherboard.
I tend to replace CPU's more than once a year, so that is why i want to get a 3200+ now, keep it for about a year then throw in a dual core etc…. Thats is why i want ram that I can keep (at least on the S939 platform) that will offer me any option I want to go with.
Dont get me wrong, i love to save money, but im not looking to make something cheap either. But the TT case I will look at.
EDIT: As for the Antecs, I dont want a front door over the DVDRW. I had that and didnt really like it in my older Antec case.
Re:Ways to save money with a negligble effect on performance
– buy cheaper value RAM that you run at relatively tight timings at DDR400.
- save money on the PSU – you don't need 600W or even 500W to run that – look into a lower Wattage but better quality PSU – Fortron/Sparkle, Enermax Noisetaker, OCZ or Tagan all provide good ones. Anything around 420-500 no doubt will still be overkill. 500W+ will just be wasting electricity and burning pointless energy.
- Grab the ATI X800 XL – 6800GT performance for less-typically you see a higher minimum fps which is far more important than average or indeed max fps.. I'd recommend the HIS as it includes rear exhaust and overclocking utility – so unlike another card when you add a Artic Cooling and overclock you won't void your warranty
- Case – focus on having good cooling – the Antec's with 120mm fans provide great cooling and value eg 3700BQE, Sonata, P160 or 3000B (what i'd get if I was buying for myself). Also worth a look maybe is the Thermaltake Tsunami Case.
As for the monitor I've heard really excellent things about the Hyundai L90D.
Any money you save, buy a present for someone or give some to charity.
Re:Yea i'll let u know if I have any problems with the S12 430 from ewiz. hehehhe
Re:Originally posted by: guy
The title of the product on ewiz also says, Seasonic S12 430W ATX Power Supply For P4 Or Xeon.
I'm guessing its just a typo and that it works for A64 also. What do you think?
From Seasonic's Website: (http://www.seasonicusa.com/products.php?lineId=9)
The S12 supports the latest P4 Prescott and Athlon 64/64 FX processors, as well as PCI Express and Serial ATA.
I just purchased the S12-600 and a Vantec case fan from ewiz five minutes ago. I'll let you know if I have any problems.
Re:sweetnesss!!!!
I just clicked submit.
lol.
Thanks All.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
so you think its okay?
I know it's ok
Re:Yes, it works with Athlons too. If it doesn't, it wouldn't be called ATX! :laugh:
Re:so you think its okay?
Re:Originally posted by: guy
The title of the product on ewiz also says, Seasonic S12 430W ATX Power Supply For P4 Or Xeon.
I'm guessing its just a typo and that it works for A64 also. What do you think?
Actually it should say ATX compliant PSU instead to cover all. 
Re:The title of the product on ewiz also says, Seasonic S12 430W ATX Power Supply For P4 Or Xeon.
I'm guessing its just a typo and that it works for A64 also. What do you think?
Re:warning, ditch the vx, and get some g.skill cas 2 1 gig(512×2) for 98.99 form newegg.
maybe 1 performance upgrade if you have vx for twice the price.
video card, get 6800gt if you can find it for almost the same price as the x800xl. it ocs a lot higher(the x800xl tend to be lame for ocing) and asupport dx9c and sm3.0, which although not needed, is always nice.
Re:eWiz has very decent reseller ratings (http://www.resellerratings.com/seller5721.html)
If you're unsure about a place online, check with reseller ratings.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Do you guys think this is the same S12 430 that was reviewed on SPCR?
The manufacture # is different, no other sites have the same # 430HB-F3SLR
Do you think this, http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-S12-430
is the same as,
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=17-151-023&depa=0
?????????????????????????????????
-Pete
The model number corresponds with the PSU reviewed by SPCR and the picture looks right. Newegg doesn't show the manufacturer's number so there's no way to tell. Seasonic's own site (http://www.seasonicusa.com/products.php?lineId=9) doesn't give you the manufacturer's number either.
The price is low but not ridiculously low–use a credit card with good buyer protection and cross your fingers.
Re:cool, i guess i'll just go ahead and buy the S12 430 now.
Re:Yep, it's the same thing. Great PSU.
A week ago EWiz had the S12-500 on sale for $90. There was a buying frenzy and it was out of stock within a day.
Re:Do you guys think this is the same S12 430 that was reviewed on SPCR?
The manufacture # is different, no other sites have the same # 430HB-F3SLR
Do you think this, http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-S12-430
is the same as,
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=17-151-023&depa=0
?????????????????????????????????
-Pete
Re:Their rating looks decent….
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller5721.html
Re:That is an absolutely awesome price on the Seagate S112-600! New Egg is charging $160.00! The shipping cost for eWiz is kind of high, but you still come out way ahead. Can anybody vouch for eWiz? I've never heard of them.
Re:I may go with the 600watt. For $127 on ewiz its the same price ballpark as the NeoPower. Thanks for the advice, that PSU looks killer.
So here is what I think I have decided so far….
CPU: A64 3200+ Venice (when released)
Mobo: DFI "LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D"
RAM: OCZ PC4000 VX
HDD: Seagate 7200.8 250GB
DVD/RW: Lite-On 16X DVD Dual Drive, Model SOHW-1673S Black
FDD: Already Have
Soundcard: Onboard (until I get good speakers)
Speakers: Already Have
Case: Lian-Li Black "PC-V1000B"
PSU: Seasonic S12 600W (possibly the 500watt if i can find it alot cheaper)
Now for what I am not sure on…..
Video: 6800GT, X800XL or wait for a next generation card????
Monitor:
DELL – UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Wide Aspect ?
DELL – UltraSharp 2001FP 20.1-inch Flat Panel ?
NEC/Mitsubishi MultiSync Black LCD1770NX-BK 17" TFT ?
NEC/Mitsubishi 19" LCD 16ms… ?
For the monitor I am stuck because I want to get something that will last a long time, but I am afraid it just wont be good for gaming. As for video card I think I will get the X800XL if next generation are not out in a month or two. Hell i might even get a cheap placeholder card like a X300 or X600 and wait until august or september for next generation cards. What i really hope for are some revies by next month, so I can see if its worth buying a $300 or $400 card that is sure to be eclipsed by next gen by the end of the year.
Re:2nd on the Seasonic S12 430.
Re:Seasonic 430 (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-S12-430) is black, powerful, efficient, and quiet.
600 watt one (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-S12-600) if you want to go nuts
Re:thanks I will look into that
Re:I'm using a borrowed Antec Neopower 480 right now, and yes it is definitely overrated. A quick search on Tom's Hardware, and you'll see that it only pulls 10.something Amps per 12V rail not the 15?18? advertised. I have 6 hard drives and 4 fans, and my gut feeling was that I didn't like the sound of my drives spinning up. However they do spin down great, about 2.5 seconds after powering off, very solid and reliable. Also I think the modular cables are less neat since I have so many add-ins, but that's all been said before and the trade-off is it looks great and is quiet as a rock. With your setup as listed there, the NeoPower will work super, but won't leave much headroom for additions 5 years down the line.
If I may make a suggestion, try the Fortron/Sparkle BlueStorm 500 (model number AX500-A) eWiz.com for $73. Some people rate it at 460W, some people rate it at 500W. I think it's amperage puts it in the 460 range, but FSP has a reputation of underrating their products so maybe it really can play with the big boys. I haven't tried it though so this is all hearsay. It's a nice blue color, and has a quiet 120mm fan just like the Antec. It doesn't have the modular cables, but it's quite a bit cheaper. There's other uglier, or quieter, or more powerful psu's at that price range too. ]H[ard forums psu section has a nice list.
Re:I have $2500 but i really dont want to spend it all. More like $2000 budget. Also again, I dont need a super rig, no need to spend $150 more for less than a 10% FPS increase.
EDIT: Let me clarify. I dont see the need to spend over $400 on a video card. i just dont see the value in getting the "obsolute best" especially if its a part like a video card that will get replaced in a year or 2 anyways. Id rather spend the cash on a $200 case that will last 5 years or a good monitor or speakers.
Re:if you have $2500 why not get a x850xt
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