Computer lock up when I start a computer game [granite bay] [plexor]

Q: Every time I start a game mt computer completely locks up, and if I do not restart, it will restart. It has never been locked out of a game. I do not know what Im doing wrong if anything.

Setup:
9500pro
2.66 P4 – HSF
msi retail mobo – chipset
audigy2 plat
1gb Giel pc3200
wd 80 8mb HD
cd/rw

GAMES tried – Raven Shield Demo Ghost Recon

What and Ive tried. 977 503-re-drivers
updated to the latest proven drivers
drivers
-old went into bios and turn everything around-default
9

Nothing updated to DirectX seems to help at all. does anyone know of problems with a chipset and a 9500pro? I had a nvida2 chipset and the card worked fine with her. Any help would be great.

Thanks


Best Answer: Back up and reformat. All is not lost. Tell your sis to stay off pc.
http://ask-leo.com/what_should_i_back_up…

Re:Hmm, 49 degrees sounds about right for 2.66…
Pentiums are designed to handle temps up to 150 before they shut themselves down…

I noticed WoodChuckCharlie mentioning that you you recently reformatted within 7 days, as well as the mobo being new… Have you looked at your IRQ setup?

Especially with Soundblaster cards, Some hardware items are very picky with what hardware to share their IRQ's with, especially with the higher quality games that are now on the market…

There had been instances where having your soundcard sharing IRQ's with your video card, would cause random shutdowns/lockups… I myself had that problem when my SBLive was sharing IRQ's with my previous GF3 ti200 64mb, trying to play specific games… It worked perfect with Counter-Strike (not stressing my system at all), but would lockup when trying to enter Global Operations…I maually changed my IRQ's (not recommended unless experienced), and didnt have a problem since…

Here's a brief overview on IRQ's:
Utilizing this IRQ guide (http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/res/irq/num.htm) which explains what each IRQ is used for, I went ahead and manually setup my personal IRQ's… Again, manually changing IRQ's isnt recommended unless you are experienced…
Windows allows a fool proof method for changing IRQ's though, as they are assigned as hardware is installed… This bascially means, if you install your soundcard first then your video card – your soundcard will have first dibs on which IRQ's to utilize…
If I remember correctly, because SoundBlaster cards are IRQ hogs, it is recommended to install your Video Card first, allowing it to have the IRQ's it needs…


Re:Did you try adjusting the sound hardware setting under directx? Causes some problems depending on setting with SB cards.

Re:Just an extra question for you guys, as I know guy. He's a good friend, and I've suggested a couple of things myself.

It seems the main thing we are trying to look at now is the temp of the CPU. When guy first discovered this problem, I was at his house getting ready to show him the Raven Shield demo. The farthest I got the first time was to the options screen to change the default graphics settings. It completely locked up. Anytime after that, it would stop a second after I starting moving the mouse on the main screen. Hence, we NEVER even got into a game. I wouldn't beleive the CPU could be working hard enough at the main menu to lock up, would it?

I don't know if he mentioned it or not, but he just reformatted sometime in the last 7 days, as he just picked up the MSI mobo. He is not overclocking anything at all, everything is running at default. The only lockups he's ever come across is just when trying these 2 games.

Hopefully that sheds a bit more light on the subject.


Re:I just did a little 1/8th screen size video demo that I have and opened up my fuzzylogic (MSI monitor) to veiw my temps and they shot up to 57-59 Is that what is causeing the lock up? At what temp do the lock up? thanks

Re:Originally posted by: guy
Extreme CPU temps are the number 1 culprit in system lockups with gaming… Check ya temps, and take the appropriate steps from there…

Quick tip:
If this is the problem, and its a system where you assembled yourself, or had someone do it for you, you may want to first checkout your processor fan… First making sure it's working correctly, and further removing it to insure the heatsink paste was applied correctly… The paste alone can make up to a 30 degree difference in CPU temp.

Correctly applying heatsink compound:
Set up the heat transfer medium. If your heat sink has a piece of thermal tape underneath it, this is used for heat conduction from the CPU core to the heat sink and will take the place of heat sink compound. Simply remove the thermal tape, exposing the putty that is below it. If the bottom of your heat sink is simply bare metal, then we will need to use compouund. First, dab a small amount of compound onto the processor core. Very little is needed – a small spot about the size of a pea or a BB. Then, spread the compound out evenly across the surface of the processor core. Do not use your fingers to spread the compound around. The oil from your fingers will not be helpful to the situation. Instead, use something with a clean, flat surface such as the edge of a credit card or whatever else you can find. When it is done, you should have a smooth surface of compound acorss the chip, free of high spots, bubbles or any debris. Lastly, take a small dab of compound and place it on the bottom of the heat sink at the point where the CPU core will contact. Then, spread the compound around a little bit and then wipe off the excess. The point of this is to fill in any small pits in the bottom of the heat sink that are not visible to you.

did the computer myself, as far as I knoe the putty should be on there right, hte HSF is the one that came in the retail box and since I don't OC I thought it should be enogh. I also use a lian li AL case. I would think everything should be fine, my temp runs right at 49 c when I'm using it noramlly, in a game I don't know (because of the look up). Is 49 high for a 2.66? thanks


Re:I am going to stress test tonight and see what it does. thanks

Re:Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy
Are you overclocking? I'm kinda hopeing you are considering you have 1 gig of giel memory ;)

I would assume he is. I would also assume that you have tried taking your o/c down to stock before coming here… right???

Yes I am not over clocking, in my discription I said I went to bios and set everything to it's defaults


Re:Extreme CPU temps are the number 1 culprit in system lockups with gaming… Check ya temps, and take the appropriate steps from there…

Quick tip:
If this is the problem, and its a system where you assembled yourself, or had someone do it for you, you may want to first checkout your processor fan… First making sure it's working correctly, and further removing it to insure the heatsink paste was applied correctly… The paste alone can make up to a 30 degree difference in CPU temp.

Correctly applying heatsink compound:
Set up the heat transfer medium. If your heat sink has a piece of thermal tape underneath it, this is used for heat conduction from the CPU core to the heat sink and will take the place of heat sink compound. Simply remove the thermal tape, exposing the putty that is below it. If the bottom of your heat sink is simply bare metal, then we will need to use compouund. First, dab a small amount of compound onto the processor core. Very little is needed – a small spot about the size of a pea or a BB. Then, spread the compound out evenly across the surface of the processor core. Do not use your fingers to spread the compound around. The oil from your fingers will not be helpful to the situation. Instead, use something with a clean, flat surface such as the edge of a credit card or whatever else you can find. When it is done, you should have a smooth surface of compound acorss the chip, free of high spots, bubbles or any debris. Lastly, take a small dab of compound and place it on the bottom of the heat sink at the point where the CPU core will contact. Then, spread the compound around a little bit and then wipe off the excess. The point of this is to fill in any small pits in the bottom of the heat sink that are not visible to you.


Re:Originally posted by: guy
Are you overclocking? I'm kinda hopeing you are considering you have 1 gig of giel memory ;)

I would assume he is. I would also assume that you have tried taking your o/c down to stock before coming here… right???


Re:Are you overclocking? I'm kinda hopeing you are considering you have 1 gig of giel memory ;) Try running the stress test on prime95 for a couple hours and see what you come up w/. (take a search on google to find prime 95) If you can run Prime95 for 24 hours (personally, I don't think you have to run it for 24, just like 9 or 10 hours at night should suffice), you can pretty much narrow down that you're not having hardware failure then we can go from there.

Re:Does it do this on a fresh install of everything? It might be remnants of past drivers causing the lockup as well.

Re:You might wanna check your CPU and system temps.

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