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Re:It seems you cannot turn off the auto update feature aside from running in "offline-mode". As a matter of fact Steam actually re-authenticates several times online while actually running the game!!! A bit much I would say…
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Re:Mostly offtopic but not worth making a new thread about:
How do i turn off the automatic updates for HL2? in the Steam Game Launcher properties, CS:S is set not to auto update, but HL2 is, and even though it appears it is a selection from a pull-down selection box, i cant actually open the box or see anything else to disable autoupdates?
Also, if you do disable autoupdates can you then select what bits to update? I.e. i'd like the "general fixes" but not the new multiplayer, and would probably prefer neither than both – when I'm downloading down 64k wire.
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Re:What is the use of all these cd-check crap when game companies already have the greatest (IMO) anti-piracy mechanism in place: CD-Keys. It is not like cd-checks and the steam crap etc is going to stop or piracy, it is only going to trouble the legal game owners.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
I just found out you dont, once you have steam running, any updates downloaded, you just close steam, DONT LOG OUT , just close it, disconnect your computer from the phone line (unplug the cable to computer)
restart steam, you should then have a, start in "OFFLINE MODE" button.
I did it, it works fine.
Offline mode still requires the CD in the drive for retail versions…this is no improvement.
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Re:I just found out you dont, once you have steam running, any updates downloaded, you just close steam, DONT LOG OUT , just close it, disconnect your computer from the phone line (unplug the cable to computer)
restart steam, you should then have a, start in "OFFLINE MODE" button.
I did it, it works fine.
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Re:Steam plus a CD is excessive, and I can see why it's annoying. Life's a bitch…
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
point your fingure at Vivendi about needing the CD. Though I'm not sure why everyone is so mad.. almost all games require the CD just buying of steam give you the benifit of not. Either way all of the retail buyers should still be able to load the game up using daemon tools or alchohol 120.
Well there's…
"Why do I (retail buyer) need a disc to play HL2 when someone who bought their copy off Steam doesn't?"
"Why do I have to jump through all these hoops to play HL2?"
"I find using a disc to play HL2 redundant when there's already an anti-piracy scheme (Steam) in place"
I doubt it's the disc requirement that's bugging ppl alone but the combination of both Steam and Securom as one can imagine. As for Daemon Tools, I've heard a new release is in the works to circumvent HL2 detection of D-Tools.
EDIT: And/or what guy said. :thumbsup:
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
point your fingure at Vivendi about needing the CD. Though I'm not sure why everyone is so mad.. almost all games require the CD just buying of steam give you the benifit of not. Either way all of the retail buyers should still be able to load the game up using daemon tools or alchohol 120.
I know that all current games need CD's to play, I'm upset simply because I have to deal with CD's in the drive in addition to Steam. Steam could be nice in the sense where (in the future) I would only need to remember my Username/password and I could play the game anywhere I have an internet connection. If Steam didn't exist I could understand the need for the CD protection, but Steam is all that should be needed being that the game is downloadable.
BTW guy, Steam protects the game already, CD protection or not. Why retail consumers got the shaft is my issue…
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
hmm, bummer.
does it still not work if you remove steam & HL2, then reinstall just steam and then login?
I assume it won't work from a clean install. Why my assumption? well from what I've gathered from the Steam forums, among others. I'd imagine if that was an option it would've been explored & mentioned by now and/or someone from Valve would've released some statement [on their forums or elsewhere] saying it was possible as they've done in the past for other issues related to HL2 and/or Steam.
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Re:point your fingure at Vivendi about needing the CD. Though I'm not sure why everyone is so mad.. almost all games require the CD just buying of steam give you the benifit of not. Either way all of the retail buyers should still be able to load the game up using daemon tools or alchohol 120.
Re:guy, I fully agree with you.
I bought a steam version AND a retail version, one for myself and one for my son because I wasn't sure which method would be better and we both wanted HL2 and anticipated many years of online play from this game ala HL1.
I DO like HL2, but I will think twice in the future about buying a game that is set up through steam or such similar activation schemes.
I think the fact that the retail consumer has to keep using the CD is B$%%SH*T
Yes, the publisher has a right to protect their wares, but the consumer has their choice as well…NOT TO BUY!
Re:Could it be that game companies and developers are just tired of having their games ripped off……… naaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that can't be it!?
Re:i still dont get why the hell you HAVE to have an internet connection to install and run a game?!? that shouldnt have anything to do with it and they should have the option to use steam to authenticate or to phone a support number to have it activated. really stupid move on valve's part imo. having to put the cd into the drive every time is a bitch and hopefully will be patched. i mean $hit, there were 4.5 gigs of crap installed on my hd and i STILL need a cd to play?!? gimme a break!
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Unfortunately that doesn't work. Ppl who registered their store bought retail CD/DVD keys with Steam still get the "CD/DVD required" version if they so decided to DL from Steam. Which brings up something else I don't get. Why would Steam allow retail CD/DVD HL2 buyers to DL a copy when the DL'd version a retail buyer would get from Steam requires a disc to play as well?
1) Lost/damaged disc(s) (only applies to the minority of ppl who didn't lose/damage CD 1).
2) Want to install HL2 on another computer or computers with no immediate access to HL2 CD's/DVD (not really that convenient since yet again; disc required to play).
hmm, bummer.
does it still not work if you remove steam & HL2, then reinstall just steam and then login? You're supposed to be able to then download any/all of the games your steam account knows you have. Thats the way I'm told it works.
Even if that does work it's something of a farce, mind you.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
i got tired of having to hunt the cd and played around with different ways to not use it, i still have to be online to start game and use steam, but i burned a image file of disk 1 to HD after i installed it with Alcohol 120, and just mount that in a virtual drive, not much better but cuts out wear and tear on cd.
I too hate they way you have to do crap to play the game, really it sucks big time..
I doesn't look for mounted images like this?
That would be way better, I just thought it would ban my account or something for trying that.
I going to have to try that client thing to, though guy brings up a good point why would they let you download it and then require the CD?
I'll see how this goes…
Re:The NO-CD method is working for me. Hopefully they don't ban me or trigger something bad on steam because of it. I use my CD-ROM too much for multiple things that I don't want to leave the CD in the drive at all times, or hunt it down when I need it.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
you can install from the HL2 disks, auth etc with steam, and then download the steam HL2 client and not need the disks.
Unfortunately that doesn't work. Ppl who registered their store bought retail CD/DVD keys with Steam still get the "CD/DVD required" version if they so decided to DL from Steam. Which brings up something else I don't get. Why would Steam allow retail CD/DVD HL2 buyers to DL a copy when the DL'd version a retail buyer would get from Steam requires a disc to play as well?
1) Lost/damaged disc(s) (only applies to the minority of ppl who didn't lose/damage CD 1).
2) Want to install HL2 on another computer or computers with no immediate access to HL2 CD's/DVD (not really that convenient since yet again; disc required to play).
Re:you can install from the HL2 disks, auth etc with steam, and then download the steam HL2 client and not need the disks. I dont know WHY they didnt simply put that HL2 client on the disks in the first place, or more to the point bother with the cd check even when they didnt, but there you go – HL2 from retail with no cd check and no concerns about havign steam accounts banned.
Re:whatever
You should have bought it off steam
Re:i got tired of having to hunt the cd and played around with different ways to not use it, i still have to be online to start game and use steam, but i burned a image file of disk 1 to HD after i installed it with Alcohol 120, and just mount that in a virtual drive, not much better but cuts out wear and tear on cd.
I too hate they way you have to do crap to play the game, really it sucks big time..
Re:Originally posted by: fisher
yeah i think it's a vivendi thing rather than valve since vivendi distributes the cd version.
Most likely.
Something equally strange: I bought the game Retail, Installed it. My Nephew has a Code from an ATI vidcard purchase, but he didn't want to download off Steam. So we decided to just Install from the Retail disks and use his code, not really knowing if it would work. It did and he doesn't need the CD to play either(took a few days before we realized this 
)
It seems to me Steam Enables/Disables CD checking depending on the Code used. I hope they disable it at some point or at least allow No-CD cracks.
Re:Looks like I need to find an address to Vivendi then…
If I had know about the way this worked from the beggining I may very well have bought the online version.
Re:yeah i think it's a vivendi thing rather than valve since vivendi distributes the cd version.
Re:To make matters worse, I bet trying a no-cd crack would you get banned from Steam.
Re:That does sound a bit unfair, that people who buy it are inconvenienced more. Perhaps they are trying to encourage people to buy from steam rather than in store from Vivendi? I think Vivendi might be interested in your complaint more than Valve.
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