Q: hey all-heres the deal . 977 503 I am doing a science fair project about overclocking / cooling system / cheap power systems. Im looking for cheap stuff good overclocking. Most particularly, I need help finding a cheap Celeron / Duron beam with a good overclocking motherboard. Suggestions on every aspect of the project are welcome, thanks in advance.
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Re:Science fair is not about computer hardware saviness. Most sucessful CS projects are software. If you do something with cooling, treat it as a project researching thermodynamics and enter it into physics or engineering.
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Re:Elemental007- wow…thanks…that's the science fair information I needed; this is really something that I'm looking to get an A on, most importantly, but that info helps alot as far as what to expect…etc. Also, I'm in Taxachusetts (MA).
I'll keep updating as to how it goes…this is the best place to get help for that sort of thing. The afformentioned mobo/duron600 combo looks good pricewise and I'll be able to get the overclock out of it that I need to impress people who don't have a clue about real computers (my physics teacher uses an iMac and AOL [eugh...]). Thanks, any suggestions are welcome, or if you want to know more about my project, PM me. I'll update when anything substantial comes up…thanks all.
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Re:Be like al gore…
tell em you invented the internet!
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Re:"I had a friend last year that wrote a loss-less image compression algorithm that was actuallly more efficient than GIF, and it did something with measuring the color palette differences."
cool stuff, I wonder if he could sell the technique to someone and get rich, Quick! hehe…
yeah trying to present something like that would be VERY difficult..
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Re:somebody mentioned the epox EP-8KTA motherboard. for overclocking, make sure you get the epox EP-8KTA+. the + version allows for multiplier and bus speed adjustment, the non + version only allows for bus speed adjustment.
the epox EP-8KTA+ is the least expensive overclocking board and it has reveived good reviews. pair it with a duron 600 and let the fun begin…
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Re:I'm just going to copy what I wrote in my last message regarding overclocking/science fair.
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Alright, judges hate benchmarking projects.
I have been doing science fair for 3 years – 8th grade, first year, I got to state, with a benchmarking project. When I went to 9th grade Senior Division, I didn't even get past Regionals.
As a Sophomore I did a network efficiency analysis of Token Passing and the efficiency and scalability of the Token Ring (128 Mb/s) and Fast Ethernet (100 Mb/s)to gigabit speeds while keeping with the IEEE specs. This was, of course, before Gigabit-over-Copper was released…
I took 2nd at regionals and went to State with it. Took 2 Special Awards and honorable mentions.
This year, I am planning to work on my freshman project for a 2nd year and compare the efficiencies of SMP computing vs. node-based distributed computing for distributed computing algorithms such as RC5! And looking at the scalability and efficiency of such systems as you scale processors, to a 4-way or 8-way setup, etc. etc.
I plan on using a lot of high-end mathamatics that I used, but didn't undestand, as a freshman. I have formulas for the growth of microprocessors 1990-1998 and I plan to see if they still hold true, and then to look at, clock-for-clock, the efficiency of various distributed computing environments (SMP, node-based, might take a look at CMP implemetation on the AS/400).
What's very popular is Generic Algorithms. A lot of the projects at state featured them. But I'm not really a programmer so I'm not able to do that.
I had a friend last year that wrote a loss-less image compression algorithm that was actuallly more efficient than GIF, and it did something with measuring the color palette differences. Man, he had such a great project, so much better than mine, but he couldn't present it at all.
Hope that helps.
What state are you in?
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Down here in Texas, at least, benchmarking projects do not go far in the Senior Division.
You may get to regionals but benchmarking projects do not go farther. I have been to ISEF when it was in Fort Worth 2 years ago – not a single benchmarking project. It was all analysis, distributed computing, and at the time (this was before Genetic Algorithms were popular) basic neural networks.
I have been to state twice, regionals three times, and have gone to ISEF as an observer as well as known three friends who did go to ISEF – two of them, as sophomores; one, as a freshmen.
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OK – Understand that I speak from experience. The school district to which I belong pulled more awards at State than any other school in Texas; in addition, not one, nor two, three, but *four* people from my Science Research/Development class went to International.
Believe me, I know what I am talking about.
If you are going to do a study of peliters, put it in Engineering or Physics.
Do not do computer science with a peltier project. That's more of an Engineering (Thermal Engineer) or Physics (Peltier Effect, Thermodynamics) depending on how you look at it.
If you do Computer Science and are aiming for State or ISEF, then do something on advanced neural networks, genetic algorithms, or distributed computing.
If you are going to do Peliters, heatsinks, put them in Engineering or Physics. The compettion is far less stiff and those topics are out of Computer Science's original scope anyway.
Don't do a benchmark project. You won't get past Regionals.
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Re:usually my science fair projects are pretty lame…but this year I have a teacher who gives a little slack if your project's good enough. I'm going to do a project on overclocking, how it works, and the cooling methods used to combat overheating.
And yes, by using a decent mobo/cpu setup…I'll have an expensive science fair project but I'll actually enjoy doing it and I'll have a good system to work with after I'm done. Seems like a decent trade-off for doing a school project…
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Re:man i remember in 3rd grade. I did project with resistors. Like how much resistance there was in parallel or series with light bulbs. And i happened to get chicken pox the same time. So i couldn't pick up my project and they donated it to charity. Including my dads $200 multimeter. My dad was so pissed.
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Re:rofl.. Don't you guys see, that's his whole plot. He's like, "Mom, Dad! I need money for my science fair project, I need 300$." So he gets the 300$, builds a spectacular overclocked science far project, then gets to take it home and use it.
You should demonstrate the power of the Athlon processor. Get a machine shop to make a "heatsink" that resembles a fryingpan. Then serve your judge Sunnyside up eggs, with bacon and hashbrowns. All thanks to the new Athlon processor with Performance Enhancing Cache!
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Re:hehe I agree guy. Also seems like a pretty expensive project. I think mine cost less than $10 when I was like 14. Then again, after the fair you got a new system
Re:Overclocking for a science project?
What ever happened to making a bulb light up or growing plants in different environments?
This technology stuff has gone too far!:Q
Re:Goto "For Sale/Trade" and see if someone can sell you or even rent a few highly overclockable chips such as:
Celeron 300A @ 450
Celeron 366A @ 550
Pentium III 450Mhz (SL35D) Retail @ 600Mhz (Actually underclocked 600s)
Pentium III 550E @ 733Mhz
Pentium III 600E @ 800Mhz
Pentium III 700E @ 933Mhz
Athlon Classic 500Mhz @ 700Mhz+
Duron 600 – 700 @ 1Ghz+
Be sure to have a stable mobo. Don't want a BSOD in the middle of the judging.
Best of luck.
guy
Re:thanks…just what I needed…any more suggestions?
Re:For duron get a epox EP-8KTA(cheapest MB that alowes multiplier adjustment)$99 600MHz duron $40 and chrome orb $9. Celeron maybe a 366 celreron $55 i'm not sure about MB maybe a cheap VIA 133 like this Gigabyte GA-6VXE7 $75 and golden orb $11.
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