Interesting Linux file system problem . [os war] [linux]


Re:Well, this isn't a dual-boot situation. I'm all now – I just want to be able to get to the files on this disk. As I remember, there isn't much (if any) space free on the disk, so writing isn't what I plan on doing.

That being said, as far as using UMSDOS or FAT32 – that's not really necessary. If I can txfer the files off to another drive and reformat it as an enormous partition, then push the files back to it, that's what I would do.

Is there any way to convert the filesystem to something else, but keep the data intact? That would be an ideal solution.

thanks again everybody..


Re:<< what version of mandrake do you have? I'm pretty sure that 8.0 and 8.1 *need* to be re-compiled for ntfs support even though they say they have it "out of the box" >>

NTFS support is flaky at best and it supports read only!!!! If you try to write to it under you will screw up your NTFS partition. He should use FAT32 or UMSDOS instead for storage and for transferring files on the windows drive to his drive and use NTFS for Windows system and application to run off.


Re:You could always try partition magic (cringe). Or just bring it to a buddy's place this weekend to transfer data and re-format the drive! ;)

Perhaps a Win2k emergency boot disk will allow you to view partition info?


Re:Can't boot up Win2k. I completely wiped it and am transitioning 100% (well, on this box. my laptop is still Win2k).

If only there were a way to hook up my full-size drive to my laptop to check it out…


Re:I have no idea what SFS is, if you can boot up Win2K open up the disk administrator and see if it says the disk is basic or dynamic.

The boundary thing isn't a big deal as far as I know, it's just a geometry difference between the BIOS and how sees the disk.


Re:OK.

cat /proc/filesystems does show ntfs in the list.

fdisk -l /dev/hdc returns:
Disk /dev/hdc: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 59560 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 1 59559 30017421 42 SFS
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(1023, 254, 63) should be (1023, 15, 63)

…and I don't know what a Win2k dynamic disk is… so… I don't know the answer to that question.

the fdisk -l command must be how I found out the filesystem was SFS before (as you can see above).

So what does this all mean? Does "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary" have something to do with it? Doesn't sound too good. Is there a way to correct this? And why is the filesystem listed as SFS?

Again, thank you everyone for your help. This is most confusing.


Re:Type 'cat /proc/filesystems', that will tell you all the supported filesystems. If ntfs isn't in the list, type 'modprobe ntfs' and if it goes without error another 'cat /proc/filesystems' should show ntfs in the list.

Also type 'fdisk -l /dev/hdc' and see what that says.

Are you sure it's not a Win2K dynamic disk?


Re:8.1

any tips on how I can check to make sure it is installed? and if not, how I go about doing that?

That would be great.

Thanks a million.


Re:what version of mandrake do you have? I'm pretty sure that 8.0 and 8.1 *need* to be re-compiled for ntfs support even though they say they have it "out of the box"

Re:There's only one partition on the drive, and as for encrypted NTFS – not as I remember. I would have had no reason to do that, and can't remember having done that. So my answer to that one would have to be no.

I just hope I can keep that data, and get the dang thing working.

Thanks.


Re:Yeah, I've tried both, to no avail.

Do I have to worry about screwing around with fstab at all? I've gone back and forth between doing it there, with the cl "mount" command, and from within KDE – does it make a difference?

Currently, I don't think it's mentioned in fstab at all. Should it be? If so, what should the settings be? Everything I find online tells me something different.

Thanks again..


Re:Are you sure it is partition 1? make sure of that, or (obviously) mounting the wrong partition won't work.

Did you make the drive encrypted NTFS? If so, will have no chance of reading it…


Re:Try mounting it as ntfs and then as fat32. If it doesn't mount either way then you've got some problems. If it does mount then forget about what fdisk says (long as you got the data right :) ). Just one problem: if the filesystem on the second drive is in fact NTFS then even if you can mount it you'll technically only be able to read from it (technically b/c from what I've heard you can also write to it all you want to with 's ntfs write support, but if you ever put the drive back into a windows machine it'll be instantly corrupted). If you just want the data then this isn't an issue, but if you want to space to use then you're going to need to find out a way to get the data off of this disk and then reformat and put it back on.

Re:I read the same thing last night when trying to figure out what was going on. Apparently, I already have NTFS support.

Is there a possibility that there's something wrong with the disk physically? Or would I be getting completely different messages?

(This would all be so simple if I could just format the disk)

Thanks for posting. Any other ideas?


Re:if it's ntfs, you're going to have to re-compile your kernel for ntfs read support… i'm guessing this is the case since it should recognize fat32 partitions without any problems.

-S


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