Q: Im not sure this is the right place to post this, but I did not know where to go . anyway.
My father-in-law has three sealed copies of MS Windows 98 with the manual and product key that were never used for his business. Is it legal to sell, although saying: “For distribution with a new PC only?
Thanks in advance for any advice or direction you can give me.
Ken
Re:seems so :
http://cgi.ebay.com/Windows-98-SE-OEM-s…4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Windows-98-SE-OEM-still-in-package_W0QQitemZ7228924190QQcategoryZ41884QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Windows-98-full-ins…4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Windows-98-full-install-OEM-CD-Certificate-and-Key_W0QQitemZ7230083585QQcategoryZ41884QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
You didn't say what the OEM copies were originally made for. Are they, for instance, Dell OEMs? Or are they generic, System Builder, OEMs?
If they are Dell OEMs, then they shouldn't be sold. They were priced for and intended to be sold only with new Dell PCs.
If they are generic, System Builder, OEM versions, and are sealed, and include an original COA which has never been used on another PC, then they can be sold under whatever license terms were current at the time they were sold. That likely means they can only be sold with some sort of "critical" PC hardware (which could even include a sound cable), which is intended to be installed on a "new" PC, along with the OEM copy of Windows 98.
Microsoft recently changed its OEM sales rules, but the new rules wouldn't apply to an old copy of Windows that's already been purchased.
They don't have any kind of branding on them…they just say "For distribution with a new PC only, for product support contact the manufacturer of your PC"
And all come with a new, never been used COA
Thanks for all of your help
my 98 disk said that too…:confused:
Re:Originally posted by: guy
is all this trouble really worth the $18 dollars
Is that how much it is these days?
Re:I say it's moral. For legal purposes, throw in new hardware.
Re:Its legal in Europe. Don't know about the US.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Microsoft isn't about ethics, its about business and making a buck.
Read up on how Bill Gates sold and operating system to IBM that he didn't even own, then went out and bought it for $50,000 and made his billions.
FANTASTIC documentary on the whole thing with a bunch of other stuff as well:
Triumph of The Nerds: The Rise of Accidental Empires in Silicon Valley
Re:Who is them and why should anyone care about them?
Re:Microsoft isn't about ethics, its about business and making a buck.
You say that like it's a bad thing. So since they are in business to make money, it's ok steal from them?
Re:Microsoft isn't about ethics, its about business and making a buck.
Read up on how Bill Gates sold and operating system to IBM that he didn't even own, then went out and bought it for $50,000 and made his billions.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Why do people think its against the law…
as if the cops were going to break down your door.It's not ethical to sell something you don't have the right to sell. That's stealing from the person you are selling to. You took money from them, but they don't legally own it. You took their money and gave them nothing.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Go ahead and sell them.
Why do people think its against the law…
as if the cops were going to break down your door.
LOL tell me about it
Re:Go ahead and sell them.
Why do people think its against the law…
as if the cops were going to break down your door.
Re:those sound like regular OEM packaged distrubutions..
I remember buying a few like that back in the day..
If you do decide to part with them for a few $, just throw in some hardware to go along with them..
Re:Originally posted by: guy
You didn't say what the OEM copies were originally made for. Are they, for instance, Dell OEMs? Or are they generic, System Builder, OEMs?
If they are Dell OEMs, then they shouldn't be sold. They were priced for and intended to be sold only with new Dell PCs.
If they are generic, System Builder, OEM versions, and are sealed, and include an original COA which has never been used on another PC, then they can be sold under whatever license terms were current at the time they were sold. That likely means they can only be sold with some sort of "critical" PC hardware (which could even include a sound cable), which is intended to be installed on a "new" PC, along with the OEM copy of Windows 98.
Microsoft recently changed its OEM sales rules, but the new rules wouldn't apply to an old copy of Windows that's already been purchased.
They don't have any kind of branding on them…they just say "For distribution with a new PC only, for product support contact the manufacturer of your PC"
And all come with a new, never been used COA
Thanks for all of your help
Re:You didn't say what the OEM copies were originally made for. Are they, for instance, Dell OEMs? Or are they generic, System Builder, OEMs?
If they are Dell OEMs, then they shouldn't be sold. They were priced for and intended to be sold only with new Dell PCs.
If they are generic, System Builder, OEM versions, and are sealed, and include an original COA which has never been used on another PC, then they can be sold under whatever license terms were current at the time they were sold. That likely means they can only be sold with some sort of "critical" PC hardware (which could even include a sound cable), which is intended to be installed on a "new" PC, along with the OEM copy of Windows 98.
Microsoft recently changed its OEM sales rules, but the new rules wouldn't apply to an old copy of Windows that's already been purchased.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
is all this trouble really worth the $18 dollars
$18 isn't just throwing-away money to everyone.
Re:is all this trouble really worth the $18 dollars
Re:i would as long as they are legal copies. 35% of windows are outright pirated in this world. he paid for them so go right ahead.
edit: just give away an old junk piece of computer equipment with it. this would make it legal.
Re:I'm not sure about the exact legalities of it, but I'm pretty sure it's not legal. At the bare least, stores usually require you to buy an OEM windows with some piece of hardware ($10 pieces seem qualify). However, I've recently seen a store selling it stand-alone, don't remember what the story was behind that.
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