Q: This weekend I tried my small home network using a Linksys network in a box kit. The two computers have 10/100 NICs in use, one for about 6 months, the other for just over one week, and both worked fine individually, but when I tried to network together, thats when the fun began.
What happened I had a computer on-line and tried to use the other computer to get online. The other computer that has been working individually on its own lot, suddenly can not access the Internet or an Internet program (games), and still when connected to itself. I typed in “winipcfg” and everthing it seems, but still nothing. Ive tried uninstalling and installing the NIC several times, but that did not either work. Both comps are using Win98 first edition (the same CD key, and I have a win98se disk, so I will be legit), has a machine to commit suicide because two machines are a CD-key? The second machine will see on the net itself, but I feel it is good delayed. It seems to work only in short bursts while working in some apps the internet.
I have cable and as up-grading my Norton antivirus programs via the live up-date, a burst of data will then stop . The LEDs on my cable modem you mention the problem with my job, and not the service.
Do I need to clean a registry setting somewhere on the box that has lost the ability to access the Internet? I have the NICs exchanged between the two machines and both seem to work. But now my other profession seems almost slowed, even though I once turned Netbui, ect removed. I was commissioned by Linksys to allow the Networking properties.
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Re:Ok, I got my second box back up and working on the net. Seems there was a program in my start-up files (and don't ask me how it got there, we'll have to confront my daughter) called: "NewDotNet startup" WTF? I have no idea how this took over my internet start-up, but it obviously did. I just happened to be looking around for things to get rid of in my Add/Remove properties of the control panel and saw that friggin "Save Now" app, and the "New startup.net" app. got rid of them both and wallah, internet back and working.
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Re:Yes, I have tried removing the Nic several times, and also from safe mode as well, just to make sure there wer'nt several listed. Also removed it from within the network properties. Looked at my start-up files to see if there was sometnig hanging around there as well, and nothing. In the adaptor properties, it say's it's hook-up and all is well when I try it. And of course i've swapped nics to make sure it was'nt the nic causing it not to work.
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Re:Have you tried removing and reinstalling the network drivers on the computer that can't connect and then following the original instructions that came with your cable modem for configuring the adapter?
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Re:guy, thanks for the link. I've been reading some of it. I still have a question though. Since this has all happened, I still am trying to figure out why the one box cannot get on-line when I run a straight cable from cable modem to the comp. And the comp that still works can only access internet files in a single burst and not complete downloads of larger data files when it is hooked-up directly with the cable modem?
The comp that still works is a fairly new set-up, and i'm thinking of re-formating and starting from scratch with it to see if that takes care of the slow and incomplete download problem with it.
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Re:A suggestion.
Several problems might exist with your configuration.
#1
Your cable modem can only receive 1 IP address. Therefore, in order to share the internet, you need a ROUTER to route the IP address to the other machines. So it would go CABLE——CABlE MODEM—-ROUTER——-SWITCH/HUB——Computer1&COMPUTER2.
#2
Your cable modem can only receive 1 IP address and will only provide that to the first network card attached to it as the MAC address of the network card was "married" to the cable modem. Therefore, in order to share the internet, you need a ROUTER capable of MAC spoofing in addition to routing the IP address to your LAN via a switch/hub.
May I suggest you go to the www.Practicallynetworked.com site to learn more about internet connection sharing?
link on how to share internet connection (http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/)
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Re:guy, Actually I had the cable modem hooked into the Port labled Uplink, and the cables from the hub (or is this actually a switch) cabled to each individual comp. I used the "Lanbridge software" that came with the kit as the program.
guy, I did check properties on both computers and they were configured the same. When I type "winipcfg" into the Start, Run drop box, all info comes up like it should, (well if I plug one box in check it, then unplugg it and plug the other one in) the same basic info comes up, yet it still refuses to connect to the internet.
Thanks for the info. Please keep throwing ideas at me. I might just be able to get it figured out.
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Re:As you are probably gathering from the articles you are reading, there must be some mechanism (software or hardware) at work to share your internet connection. A simple hub/switch is insufficient. If you don't want to buy additional hardware, you can use ICS in Win98SE, when you recieve it. However, in my experience, ICS is flakey, can be difficult to establish and can be hard to remove completely from your system if you want to drop ICS in favor of a hardware atlernative down the road.
That being said, I suggest you invest in a cable/dsl router with a three or four port switch. They are much more reliable than ICS, you do not have to have both comptuters on all of the time and they are quite inexpensive these days.
With regard to your old computer not working, if you haven't already, you should open the network properties for both computers and make sure the settings for the computer that is not working are identical to the settings for the computer that is able to connect. At least that's some place to start.
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Re:Let's take a step back.. Your original intent is to create a home network so you can share files with the two computers and get them to both access the Internet at once. Your kit came with a switch, some NIC's and a piece of Internet sharing software. This all correct?
If this is the case, your network should look like:
PC #1 with two NIC's – One going to the cable modem and one going to the switch.
PC #2 with one NIC, connecting straight to the switch.
Obviously, PC #1 would be running the Internet sharing software so that PC #2 can reach the Internet.
Is this how things are configured and generally setup?
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Re:Thanks for replying. I will need to look more into this, and slowly. I read thru my booklet I received from the company that supplies my cable service, and they make mention that I should contact them if I have a home network. I just have the simple Linksys 5port hub, and don't plan on having seperate internet addresses, or any thing fancy. The whole idea was just to have 2 comps, on one cable modem for general entertainment purposes.
guy, I will be using a Linksys 5 port hub to share the connection. I do not plan on having seperate Internet addressess for each comp on the network. One comp will have Win98 and one will have Win98se. I do not have multiple addresses asigned, and don't intend to. I have the origional internet lanbridge program that came with the Linksys kit. Will this do it for me?
Jack thanks for the links, like I say, I'll read thru slowly so I at least get part of it.
I guess the thing that really bothered me is the fact that once I attempted to go on line with both comp's, that one failed to work, and when I installed the cable in just that particular comp, it still would not work, though it had previously worked just fine.
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Re:Network depends on working network hardware, and network software setting. Other computer trouble (registry, need to formatting and reinstall windows, etc.) amounts to less then 1% in network failure.
Read slowly, and carefully the content of the following Links:
Basic Options for Internet Connection Sharing, (http://www.{$MySite}/guides/viewfaq.html?i=105)
Hubs, routers, switches, DSL, LANs, WANs…? (http://www.{$MySite}/guides/viewfaq.html?i=48)
Networking and sharing between computers. (http://www.{$MySite}/guides/viewfaq.html?i=92)
Re:How are you sharing the cable connection? I see no mention of a router in your post and plain old Win98 does not support ICS. Are you running a proxy program? Do you have multiple ip addresses from your cable provider? In sum, how are you sharing, or should I say "attempting" to share the connection?
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