Q: I just started OCing my E4500 and it hits 3.1 to 2.2 with a voltage of 1.45.
I downloaded Orthos and kick it out. My CPU idle temp is 36-40 stops. As soooon as I start Orthos jumps right to 60 and then moves to a high 60s, maybe low 70s with a longer times.
What could be causing this strange reading?
Any suggestions welcomed.
David
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Tuniq
CoolerMaster 650W E4500@3.1Ghz 1.45v ~ 680i mobo 8600GTS 512MB
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Re:Coretemp has been proven to be more accurate than speedfan. Speedfan and Abit EQ may be using the same code so giving the same results.
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Re:Ya see there's no way that's correct.
Speedfan and Abit EQ both read 15C lower for me.
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Re:CoreTemp 0.96 reporting temps 15C too high? I thought that they corrected the temps for M0-stepping CPUs, and now they are reading accurately. I get CoreTemp readings of 84C for my CPU now.
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Re:What program are you using to monitor temps? I've found 0.96 CoreTemp is reporting 15C too high (75C); beta37 Speedfan has the correct temps for me.
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Re:Somethings not right, those temps are too high. The quick jump is normal though but i would try re-seating your heatsink.
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Re:Mine jumps in seconds too
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Re:Originally posted by: jaredpace
I just can't tell if its the cpu or 8800gt that is causing the lock-ups.
Run the ATI Tool artifact scanner. If that shows up errors, it's your graphics card. I think it's more likely the CPU though.
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Re:jumping to 60C is normal when running those CPU intensive apps
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Re:That's what Orthos/Prime95 utils are supposed to do. Max stress and heat on cpus. Of course it's going to jump straight up to 60+ in temps.
Anything in upper 60s and mid-70s is probably on the high temps side where extended use at these temps will most likely degrade the cpu over time. How long? Who knows, these cpus are only 6-12 months old!
I'd try and lower the vcore and see what the max overclock are at 1.425 if you can, and maybe even make sure the heatsink has good contact with the cpu.
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Re:I'm surprised a Tuniq will let a CPU get to such high temperatures. The Tuniq is supposed to be a class better than my Big Typhoon, but my CPU doesn't go past 48C at Orthos load. My BIOS voltage is set to 1.4325 and my CPU frequency is 3.2ghz, so it's not that far off from yours. You might want to check the heatsink is installed correctly.
Re:Originally posted by: jaredpace
My 4300 @ 3.3ghz on orthos or Intel TAT jumps to mid-60's off the get-go. At 100% load both cores, it goes to 80 and makes wierd beeps from the motherboard speaker.
Beeps like, "Help!! It's too fucking hot inside this core package!" or like "Please reseat that stock intel cooler with some effective thermal paste and give it some drying time, because this quite frankly, is not working."
When i hear the beeps, i just close tat or orthos and go play some crysis – just for an hour or two before the system locks up.
I just can't tell if its the cpu or 8800gt that is causing the lock-ups.
It's your CPU dummy. Lower your clock speed and voltage before it melts.
Re:My 4300 @ 3.3ghz on orthos or Intel TAT jumps to mid-60's off the get-go. At 100% load both cores, it goes to 80 and makes wierd beeps from the motherboard speaker.
Beeps like, "Help!! It's too fucking hot inside this core package!" or like "Please reseat that stock intel cooler with some effective thermal paste and give it some drying time, because this quite frankly, is not working."
When i hear the beeps, i just close tat or orthos and go play some crysis – just for an hour or two before the system locks up.
I just can't tell if its the cpu or 8800gt that is causing the lock-ups.
Re:Again, the problem will be with us interminably as new members post and old members forget the posts they read or overlooked.
But the E4500 is made for an FSB of 800 Mhz. Therefore, taking it from 2.2 Ghz to 3.1 Ghz is a 41% over-clock, and I'm not particularly stunned by the OP's temperatures at 1.45V VCORE.
In other posts in this forum, and in hundreds of posts at "Cases and Cooling" last summer, I and others explained what can be done with air-cooling to reduce these temperatures.
Low-70's degree-Celsius is not excessive for any of these CPUs, regardless of stock-FSB. If those are the core (TJunction) values you are reading, then TCASE is between 55 and 60C at load, with an adequate margin below the spec'd limit or throttling limit of these processors.
Still, since it's your processor, you should check the Intel web-site's processor specification sheet and specification update, chapter 5, for the thermal specs of the E4500.
Re:Temps will literally jump within seconds. Low 70's for a peak temp is quite high however.
Re:Thanks for the updates.
I expected it to jump up with the continued processing, but it literally jump from 37 to 60 as soon as I hit start. Found that odd.
I have a Tuniq 120 tower at lower speeds, but I may need to crank it when I am playing games to keep the CPU cooler.
I seem to run into issues when I take the voltage down anymore. System becomes unstable.
Re:The rapid temp rise is normal. I'd get a better cooler or lower the speed/voltage if I were you. The low 70's is pretty hot for a C2D.
Re:I wouldn't consider that an "odd reading".
It is quite normal and expected for Orthos to make a near immediate rise in your CPU's operating temperature. That is the purpose of using it…to have your CPU doing computationally intensive calculations which result in the CPU heating up to nearly its maximum expected operating temperature in the configuration you have placed it in.
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