Q: So my brother just got a new Dell E310 Demen Zion, and the stupid thing has no PCIe x16 slot, only two PCI slots and one PCIe x1 slot.
The rest of the specs a P4 2.8GHz under w / HT, 512 MB of RAM (I might throw in another 512MB stick), and – of course – the dreaded integrated EVERYTHING in typical Dell fashion. I do not want the system down by stabbing the integrated graphics.
I chubby m not even sure if a standard ATX mobo would fit in the thing, because it has not even arrived, so I can not go to it. The documentation on the Dell site does not indicate what kind of standard, either.
Would it worth swapping out the mobo and go for a PCIe video card? Or should I just a PCI video card? My brother does not do very heavy gaming, but he does enjoy games like Rome: Total War and Civilization IV.
Thanks
Best Answer: New motherboards come standard with PCI slots (I haven't seen any that don't), it is a standard, also PCIe you can buy a better card that has dual monitor support. (remember if you are a gamer like myself, make sure that your games support 64 also, if not stay 32, I learned that one the costly way.
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Re:Don't worry. He will only get smiles, hugs, and "thank yous."
But I still think he's penny-wise and pound-foolish for not letting me just take the money and build something myself.
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Re:"I don't think a PCI video card would run those games well either."
wrong
http://totalwar.wargamer.com/requirements.html
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/info/
http://www.2kgames.com/civ4/support_msr.htm
"And the best PCI card is the geforce 6200. It's by 3dfuzion. It's findable."
who got it besides chumbo for $79? but that is the most knowledgeable response this thread so far, though. thanks for posting.
but i feel so sorry for the father. these ungrateful chillun… :confused:
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Re:OP – Dell has a 30 days no questions asked return policy. Yoy may have to make a toll call to their Round Rock TX office to get that.
At work I buy only Dells/HP for their reliability/generous credit/3 year warranty etc. – however I never buy Dell's base models as these are dogs, and come crippled in some way that no matter what you do you cannot improve their performance. Integrated video is generally a bad idea so much so that even a 29$ video card is an improvement of sorts. Dells's low priced models are not meant for gaming but your brother will need a video card if he plans to play games.
To navigate Dell's forums, go to the main site pick Dimension then choose topic either Video or Upgrade hardware
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Re:Thank you very much, guys.
I had no idea Dell even had a forum. I wonder if they make it hard to locate on purpose. Or maybe I'm blind. I still don't see how to navigate to it from their main site.
Thanks, again.
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Re:i'd suggest selling the dell and making a rig…if you don't want to, go for the pci-e mobo if you can come across one that fits
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Re:This is a problem faced all the time by Dell pc owners and the best answers are likely to be found at their forums:
http://forums.us.dell.com/
An useful tool to check upgradeability of (Dell) pcs is available online at www.powerleap.com – Online configurator. Powerleap also sells an overpriced version of GE6200
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Re:And the best PCI card is the geforce 6200. It's by 3dfuzion. It's findable.
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Re:I dont think you can fit an atx mobo in dells btx case design. The e310 has a BTX case. The AMD mobo has ATX.
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Re:If you're going to be buying a PCI-e video card worth the throuble, you might as well switch the core to AMD.
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Re:It's just stupid to sell a Kia with a BMW engine in it to someone who doesn't know any better, when the rest of the components are crap.
I guess in the end it's my brother who benefits, as every component could have been crap.
The thing even has a SATA harddrive. Am I the only one that finds it amusing that the components seem so imbalanced when it comes to performance?
Anyway, this is off topic. I just wanted to know if it is worth it/possible to swap out the motherboard for one with a PCIe x16 slot.
Re:is it a crime ? really ? to go out and buy a kia and expects bmw performance ?
Re:Neither me nor my brother ordered anything. It was ordered for him by our stubborn, cheap, and computer illiterate father.
Dell and every other major computer manufacturer (Compaq/HP) is guilty of selling suckers like my father bizarrely unbalanced computers. i.e. P4 2.8GHz with 256MB RAM and integrated graphics – WTF? Stupid. It just happened to come with a free upgrade to 512MB RAM.
I do understand that you get what you pay for, as I personally own a Dell Inspiron 9300 that I have been extremely satisfied with.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
I would agree if he had had a choice.
He was lucky to get anything, as it was ordered for him for college. I was expecting something worse, like a Celeron with 256MB RAM etc. He had no say in the matter.
But when I saw that the rest of the hardware turned out to be semi-decent, I figured it might be worth him throwing in a little of his own money to make it play games semi-decently.
so basically he didn't do any research and bought the cheapest thing on the planet and you're blaming dell ? heres the system board, its not atx
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/s…ms/dim3100/en/sm/techov0.htm#wp1052309 (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim3100/en/sm/techov0.htm#wp1052309)
Re:I would agree if he had had a choice.
He was lucky to get anything, as it was ordered for him for college. I was expecting something worse, like a Celeron with 256MB RAM etc. He had no say in the matter.
But when I saw that the rest of the hardware turned out to be semi-decent, I figured it might be worth him throwing in a little of his own money to make it play games semi-decently.
Re:?? This is soemthing your brother should have thought of before he bought it. If I were him I would just use the integrated video and forget about gaming.
Re:I would discourage a PCI video card and I don't think a PCI video card would run those games well either.
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