Q: I have fought all leather chicks in church, and I go up the spiral staircase, where two fight me, but I cannot get either door. There is a gate to the left and a wooden door to the right and I cannot a way to get someone to give me a hint or one.
Can open to find:)
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Re:<< Also, i'll prove myself as a hardcore FPS player by talking trash: BEN, i'll hand you your ass in any FPS, with my modem >>
Oh puhlease. Care to play some UT?
BTW, everyone else was being cool. YOUR the one that started talking trash.
Actually, now that I think about it I'd rather not play some UT with you. If you beat me I'll never hear the end of it (considering how your acting now, I can't imagine how bad it would be if you actually managed to beat me) and if I won you would use your modem handicap as an excuse and probably still talk trash about how you could beat me if you were on broadband. I think I'll pass.
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Re:So you're saying:
You found every secret area,
you recovered all the treasure caches, and
you engaged (and beat) all the opposing NPC's to win the game . . .
If that's "Yes to all", that's great.
Really.
It must've been somewhat boring . . .
Personally, I've found the NPC's (in "Death Incarnate" mode) to be the least challenging problem – "Point 'n' Shoot" doesn't access secret areas, which may be where others, myself included, are having trouble . . .
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Re:<< Do you even play these games? I don't think so because some points in the game are purposely made difficult so that you have to solve the problem in order to get somewhere or progress. It's not always obvious. Not all FPS games are "get key, open door" like Quake. >>
I just beat RTCW.
Lets seee…
I've played/beat/been obsessed with…
-The original Wolf
-Doom 1/2
-Duke3D
-Shadow Warrior
-Quake1/2/3 (over 20 MODS)
-Halflife (a bunch of mods)
And a handful of others. I still stick to my original statement. Point-and-shoot. All of those games were EASY… and only evolved around pushing buttons and walking through doors.
Also, i'll prove myself as a hardcore FPS player by talking trash: BEN, i'll hand you your ass in any FPS, with my modem.
(been playing online with a modem since day one.. don't underestimate a person with.. a .. modem)
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Re:<< How do people get stuck in these games?
They aren't aiming at the "risk" or strategic crowds here man, its a POINT AND SHOOT game.
Lack of observance is the only thing that will hinder your progress in the game… You missed a button or something. >>
Do you even play these games? I don't think so because some points in the game are purposely made difficult so that you have to solve the problem in order to get somewhere or progress. It's not always obvious. Not all FPS games are "get key, open door" like Quake.
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Re:OMG
Apparently my monitor settings are a little too dark, there's a f'ing switch I couldnt see, I got pissed and started clicking everwhere and found it. I'm an idiot. LOL
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Re:How do people get stuck in these games?
They aren't aiming at the "risk" or strategic crowds here man, its a POINT AND SHOOT game.
Lack of observance is the only thing that will hinder your progress in the game… You missed a button or something.
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Re:Hmm I can't find that room, we may be talking about diffferent levels.
I'm at Mission 2 Part four.
I fought my way through the elite guards or whatever the leather clad girls are called, then there is a alter with a letter about an older burial site and the tomb of Olaric. Then there is another elite guard chucking grenades down a ladder, I shoot her go up the ladder there is a secret room directly accross from the room with the ladder, I fight a couple of more e. guards go accross to the opposite corner go down the spiral staircase more e. guards then there is a locked door and a locked gate with the lever on the other side. I cant find any way out, I must have missed something.
I notice that the rail upstairs directly accross from the alter and the big stain glassed windows can be torn/shot down, I don't know what this helps except possibly easier access to the secret room mentioned above.
I'm stuck 
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Re:Back up the stairs, head right. There is a room to the left where you have to kill one guy. It doesn't look like one, but there is a door directly opposite the door you entered, it's stained glass. Go out that door onto the balcony and walk around the ledge to the right where there is a ladder.
I'll let you figure it out from there 
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Re:I've played the whole thing but I can't quite remember where you are. I remember a few churches in the game.
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