“Symantec has launched the beta test version of its anti-spyware application” [beta test version] [public beta]

Q: Did anyone try?
thinking trynig of the self simply does not want to jump head first, unknown territory

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in my history to try betting software, some of the beta apps ruining my system: (
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link (https: / / www secure.symantec. com / public_beta /)

some general info (http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/0, 2000061744,39190671,00. htm)


Re:Originally posted by: guy
No, I would not pay $25 ea. because they are all free. :P Depending on your surfing habits, or the machine you are servicing at the time, you may not need to use all of them. However in my line of work I usually get the really nasty systems to work on. Any system that comes into my shop w/ a "popup or redirect" issue on the check-in form is usually in bad shape. I'll run all of the apps listed above and still end up editing the registry to get it 99.9% clean.

how many systems do you have to go through in one day?


Re:I used to use Adaware and Spybot S&D. Then I formatted and set up my network securely and I don't have anything installed. There really is no need if you are set up properly from the start.

All that's necessary is a nice AV program like AntiVir to scan files before running them. None of that Norton "I'm going to use almost all of your resources" garbage.

Get a router/firewall, set up your ports correctly, patch XP immediately upon installation and keep it up to date, set up your Firefox and IE security settings properly, do a few moments' research on unknown programs before installing them, and read what you're clicking 'Yes' to, and you'll have very few problems.

The sticky in this forum is an *excellent* resource for instructions on doing so.


Re:Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy
My arsenal
Ad-Aware
Spybot
Spy Sweeper
MS Anti-Spyware (Giant)
HiJack This
CWShredder
Killbox

guy, would you use all of these apps if they cost 25$ a piece?

although i fall into definition of a power-user, i am sick and tired of using five different apps to get one task done! let alone a task which is considered a maintenance task, which by definition has to be performed on a regular basis.

if symantec anti-spyware will resemble their antivirus it could turned out fairly good. ie symantec antivirus is not so bad and to more then 90% of end user, it alone can be enough. if symantec will pour some desent R&D into it (and i am assuming they will, computer security is a very lucrative market), and lats say it will turned out to be able to detact ,remove and offer real-time protection for aboute ~80% of the spyware, it will be the best anti-spyware to date.

No, I would not pay $25 ea. because they are all free. :P Depending on your surfing habits, or the machine you are servicing at the time, you may not need to use all of them. However in my line of work I usually get the really nasty systems to work on. Any system that comes into my shop w/ a "popup or redirect" issue on the check-in form is usually in bad shape. I'll run all of the apps listed above and still end up editing the registry to get it 99.9% clean.


Re:Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy
I think I'm gonna pass on it for right now. Ad-aware and MS Antispyware seem to be working just fine. :)

I wish I could say that. MS Antispyware can't find the Internet for update on one computer and locks up at update on the other. Gave up on it,

That's pretty pathetic when a MS product doesn't work on Windows…lol

The great thing is that MS Antispyware is incompatible with Windows Media Center Extenders. I'm unsure why they would allow this bug to sit, but it has.


Re:Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy
I think I'm gonna pass on it for right now. Ad-aware and MS Antispyware seem to be working just fine. :)

I wish I could say that. MS Antispyware can't find the Internet for update on one computer and locks up at update on the other. Gave up on it,

That's pretty pathetic when a MS product doesn't work on Windows…lol

Oh, is this something new? :laugh:


Re:Originally posted by: guy
Spyware will only affect those users who click every "yes" button on the Internet, use spyware-infected apps, doesn't bother update their OS and web browser and use a firewall, which is about 90% of the total user population at the very least. Spyware scanners won't really help much unless they practise safe computing

try telling that to a common end user, whan you are the one that needs come over to his home/cubical to clean his system every 2/3 monthes. man, the responses that i got whan i tried that…

Originally posted by: guy

The majority of people here hate NAV for the same reason as i.

It's overpriced bloatware.

When you can download AntiVir or AVG for free, which do a decent job (& consume much less RAM), that doesn't leave much room for love of Norton :P

dont get my wrong, i'm not a fan of NAV, and i totally agree, it is overpriced, not so sure about the "bloatware" part, but thats just me.


Re:Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy
I think I'm gonna pass on it for right now. Ad-aware and MS Antispyware seem to be working just fine. :)

I wish I could say that. MS Antispyware can't find the Internet for update on one computer and locks up at update on the other. Gave up on it,

That's pretty pathetic when a MS product doesn't work on Windows…lol


Re:Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy
Funny how no one dares to try this :laugh:
i wander how many of people that responded to this thread (and in anandtech forum) are actually using norton antivirus, my guess is that most of tham do.

Your guess is wrong ;)

The majority of people here hate NAV for the same reason as i.

It's overpriced bloatware.

When you can download AntiVir or AVG for free, which do a decent job (& consume much less RAM), that doesn't leave much room for love of Norton :P


Re:Spyware will only affect those users who click every "yes" button on the Internet, use spyware-infected apps, doesn't bother update their OS and web browser and use a firewall, which is about 90% of the total user population at the very least. Spyware scanners won't really help much unless they practise safe computing.

Literally everyone I knew of without a firewall got infected with the Blaster Worm when it first struck.


Re:Originally posted by: guy

Originally posted by: guy
Funny how no one dares to try this :laugh:
i wander how many of people that responded to this thread (and in anandtech forum) are actually using norton antivirus, my guess is that most of tham do.

For the record, I have NAV on two XP machines and avast! on the 98SE machine.


Re:Originally posted by: guy
Funny how no one dares to try this :laugh:
i wander how many of people that responded to this thread (and in anandtech forum) are actually using norton antivirus, my guess is that most of tham do.

Re:Funny how no one dares to try this :laugh:

Re:thank you all for you'r responses.

BUT did anyone actully tried it?

from what i know about spyware/melaware/hijackes it takes at least two software to achieve adequate protection and host of them(software) to achieve a good overoll protection (some user will use up to 5 different apps if not more).

Originally posted by: guy
My arsenal
Ad-Aware
Spybot
Spy Sweeper
MS Anti-Spyware (Giant)
HiJack This
CWShredder
Killbox

guy, would you use all of these apps if they cost 25$ a piece?

although i fall into definition of a power-user, i am sick and tired of using five different apps to get one task done! let alone a task which is considered a maintenance task, which by definition has to be performed on a regular basis.

if symantec anti-spyware will resemble their antivirus it could turned out fairly good. ie symantec antivirus is not so bad and to more then 90% of end user, it alone can be enough. if symantec will pour some desent R&D into it (and i am assuming they will, computer security is a very lucrative market), and lats say it will turned out to be able to detact ,remove and offer real-time protection for aboute ~80% of the spyware, it will be the best anti-spyware to date.


Re:LOL, Norton Anti Spyware?

Now to decide which I'd LEAST rather have installed on my PCs. Mickeysoft AntiSpyware or Norton. LOL :D :)

Norton hasn't made any decent software since… I'll get back to you on that.


Re:I wouldn't touch Norton Internet Security with a 10m stick. Make sure you have your gig 'o memory before install.

Re:No need for every spyware scanner that comes down the pike now that many more useful ones are already out. If you want a good place to start, try Trendmicro's online scanner (http://housecall.trendmicro.com)
It used to scan exclusively for virii, but now supports spyware scanning as well. Only problem is you need to run IE to access the online scanner (ActiveX).

Re:yet another antispyware program… these things are pretty popular these days… i heard Trend Micro is also working on their own offering…

Pretty soon it will be standard offering with AV solutions…

anyway MS AntiSpyware is awesome and in conjunction with Spybot it doesn't get any better… CWS shredder is also handy but Adaware for instance is unecessary IMO.


Re:Originally posted by: guy
I think I'm gonna pass on it for right now. Ad-aware and MS Antispyware seem to be working just fine. :)

MS Antispyware is the bomb. No seriously, it blows up the operating system. :frown:


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Re:Originally posted by: guy
I think I'm gonna pass on it for right now. Ad-aware and MS Antispyware seem to be working just fine. :)

I wish I could say that. MS Antispyware can't find the Internet for update on one computer and locks up at update on the other. Gave up on it,


Re:The adware/spyware detection is NAV 2004 & 2005 is worthless. I doubt their beta product is any better.

My arsenal
Ad-Aware
Spybot
Spy Sweeper
MS Anti-Spyware (Giant)
HiJack This
CWShredder
Killbox


Re:I think I'm gonna pass on it for right now. Ad-aware and MS Antispyware seem to be working just fine. :)

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