Q: Anyone know how to make it work, or someone has a good forum for things like this?
Re:z680s would be better than the GMX.
5.1 "stereo" is just a marketing gimmick, ala prologic II or circasurround or CMSS. Upmixing crap.
The problem is, those speakers can only get 2 channels from the sound source you have them connected to. So you either have to change your speakers, change your sound source (soundstorm would be the only viable option) or live with 2 channel "matrixed" sound.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
I'm using Logitech 640 speakers right now with the Audigy 2 ZS. Should I sell those speakers on ebay, and use the GMX 5.1 speakers, or keep both, and use the GMX on my TV?
Anybody have any idea on what I should do?
If you want true 5.1 channel surround sound from your DS3D and EAX games, you've got two choices.
1) Dump the Audigy and your motherboard and buy an nForce2 motherboard with the MCP-T southbridge so you'll have SoundStorm, the only audio processor to date that can transcode EAX and DS3D (As well as A3D) into Dolby Digital 5.1
2) Dump your speakers for an analog pair of 5.1s. Your Audigy is perfectly capable of creating a 5.1 soundfield from DS3D, A3D, and EAX in analog only. You can either buy a 5.1 computer speaker set, or a real home theater receiver and matching speakers. If you go the receiver route, you'll want one that has what is most of the time called 6 channel input.
Ok, thanks for the advice. Does anybody think that I should just stick with this, or get like the Logitech 680s, or something?
680s would be an example of analog computer speakers. They've got digital inputs, but also analog.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
I've got an audigy and what I do is just run a digital out into the promedia's. Then, when I play a dvd or a game with a 5.1 track, it's 5.1 audio. When I'm listening to MP3's or playing stereo computer games, I switch the speakers over to 5-Channel Stereo or Prologic II. It doesn't get better than this!
You don't know WTF you're talking about. There's no such thing as "5-channel Stereo."
Furthermore, the GMX don't have 5.1 analog inputs, only 2 channel analog input. And so if you're switching from digital connection to analog 2 channel, you're just wasting your time, since it's not doing anything different.
Here he goes again. Spouting off on people when he doesn't know what he is talking about. No such thing as 5-channel stereo? Odd, I'm looking at the display of my receiver right now, and it says "5CH STEREO." Guess it exists everywhere but in your mind. 5 channel stereo is a form of multichannel stereo, also known as stereo surround, and does indeed exist. It's not surround or matrixed audio because it isn't altered any. The stereo signal is mirrored exactly to the surround speakers and combined equally to the center speaker so the sound is pretty much identical to the original yet is coming out of every speaker you have.
I'd recommend buying a 5.1 speaker set that accepts analog in. In other words, guy "#2" option.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
I'm using Logitech 640 speakers right now with the Audigy 2 ZS. Should I sell those speakers on ebay, and use the GMX 5.1 speakers, or keep both, and use the GMX on my TV?
Anybody have any idea on what I should do?
If you want true 5.1 channel surround sound from your DS3D and EAX games, you've got two choices.
1) Dump the Audigy and your motherboard and buy an nForce2 motherboard with the MCP-T southbridge so you'll have SoundStorm, the only audio processor to date that can transcode EAX and DS3D (As well as A3D) into Dolby Digital 5.1
2) Dump your speakers for an analog pair of 5.1s. Your Audigy is perfectly capable of creating a 5.1 soundfield from DS3D, A3D, and EAX in analog only. You can either buy a 5.1 computer speaker set, or a real home theater receiver and matching speakers. If you go the receiver route, you'll want one that has what is most of the time called 6 channel input.
Ok, thanks for the advice. Does anybody think that I should just stick with this, or get like the Logitech 680s, or something?
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
I'm using Logitech 640 speakers right now with the Audigy 2 ZS. Should I sell those speakers on ebay, and use the GMX 5.1 speakers, or keep both, and use the GMX on my TV?
Anybody have any idea on what I should do?
If you want true 5.1 channel surround sound from your DS3D and EAX games, you've got two choices.
1) Dump the Audigy and your motherboard and buy an nForce2 motherboard with the MCP-T southbridge so you'll have SoundStorm, the only audio processor to date that can transcode EAX and DS3D (As well as A3D) into Dolby Digital 5.1
2) Dump your speakers for an analog pair of 5.1s. Your Audigy is perfectly capable of creating a 5.1 soundfield from DS3D, A3D, and EAX in analog only. You can either buy a 5.1 computer speaker set, or a real home theater receiver and matching speakers. If you go the receiver route, you'll want one that has what is most of the time called 6 channel input.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
I've got an audigy and what I do is just run a digital out into the promedia's. Then, when I play a dvd or a game with a 5.1 track, it's 5.1 audio. When I'm listening to MP3's or playing stereo computer games, I switch the speakers over to 5-Channel Stereo or Prologic II. It doesn't get better than this!
You don't know WTF you're talking about. There's no such thing as "5-channel Stereo."
Hate to say it, but yeah there is. It's from the same marketing wizards that brought us dual mono sound.
For stereo, you've got two channels (L and R), right? 5-channel stereo is a matrix where the front and rear speakers play the appropriate channel, and the center plays a mixture of left and right.
Think like how the front and rear speakers work in a normal car.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
I'm using Logitech 640 speakers right now with the Audigy 2 ZS. Should I sell those speakers on ebay, and use the GMX 5.1 speakers, or keep both, and use the GMX on my TV?
Anybody have any idea on what I should do?
Re:I'm saying that "stereo" denotes two channels. Surround is for 5.1 or greater.
Re:I'm using Logitech 640 speakers right now with the Audigy 2 ZS. Should I sell those speakers on ebay, and use the GMX 5.1 speakers, or keep both, and use the GMX on my TV?
Re:Originally posted by: guy
You don't know WTF you're talking about. There's no such thing as "5-channel Stereo."
Features Include:
* 5.1 surround sound supports Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II, five-channel stereo and 2-channel stereo
-Taken from Klipsch Website
See….. it is included. Basically these speakers do the same thing as having a home theater reciever process your audio signals (except it doesn't decode DTS, just doby digital). I've got another computer hooked into a harmon kardon reciever, and I'll listen to my mp3's in 5-channel stereo there. Then, I can digitally do the same thing with the GMX's.
I've had these speakers, Klipsch Promedia 4.1, and my home theater is Klipsch Reference line of speakers. These are great quality and personally I like them better than my old 4.1's. Only thing these lack are a headphone jack on the control pod of the GMX and DTS decoding.
Well, yes and no. All it's doing with 5 channel stereo is sending the front signals to the back. It's not 5 discrete channels. Which means, you are not getting real surround sound, just it's version of upmixing it to that. That's fine for listening to music, but for gaming and movies, it's not going to be good.
Unless you have a soundstorm that is, then it does work.
Re:You don't know WTF you're talking about. There's no such thing as "5-channel Stereo."
Features Include:
* 5.1 surround sound supports Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II, five-channel stereo and 2-channel stereo
-Taken from Klipsch Website
See….. it is included. Basically these speakers do the same thing as having a home theater reciever process your audio signals (except it doesn't decode DTS, just doby digital). I've got another computer hooked into a harmon kardon reciever, and I'll listen to my mp3's in 5-channel stereo there. Then, I can digitally do the same thing with the GMX's.
I've had these speakers, Klipsch Promedia 4.1, and my home theater is Klipsch Reference line of speakers. These are great quality and personally I like them better than my old 4.1's. Only thing these lack are a headphone jack on the control pod of the GMX and DTS decoding.
Re:Yeah, his problem isn't the digital connection, it's that none of those soundcards can encode 3d audio into a Dolby Digital stream (which the GMX speakers need). I think nVidia's Soundstorm is still the only card that can do realtime Dolby Digital encoding.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Get a $24 Chaintech AV-710 sound card. Its better than the Audigy 2 ZS at music and can pass bit-perfect audio digitally.
How would that help him with his current situation?
Re:Get a $24 Chaintech AV-710 sound card. Its better than the Audigy 2 ZS at music and can pass bit-perfect audio digitally.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
I've got an audigy and what I do is just run a digital out into the promedia's. Then, when I play a dvd or a game with a 5.1 track, it's 5.1 audio. When I'm listening to MP3's or playing stereo computer games, I switch the speakers over to 5-Channel Stereo or Prologic II. It doesn't get better than this!
You don't know WTF you're talking about. There's no such thing as "5-channel Stereo."
Furthermore, the GMX don't have 5.1 analog inputs, only 2 channel analog input. And so if you're switching from digital connection to analog 2 channel, you're just wasting your time, since it's not doing anything different.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
I've got an audigy and what I do is just run a digital out into the promedia's. Then, when I play a dvd or a game with a 5.1 track, it's 5.1 audio. When I'm listening to MP3's or playing stereo computer games, I switch the speakers over to 5-Channel Stereo or Prologic II. It doesn't get better than this!
Are you using the GMX 5.1 speakers? and how would you rate these speakers?
Re:If I had gotten the Audigy 2 ZS Platinum cards, would this setup have worked?
Re:I've got an audigy and what I do is just run a digital out into the promedia's. Then, when I play a dvd or a game with a 5.1 track, it's 5.1 audio. When I'm listening to MP3's or playing stereo computer games, I switch the speakers over to 5-Channel Stereo or Prologic II. It doesn't get better than this!
Re:Anybody have any suggestions on what I should do. Should I get the M-Audio Rev card? or should I just hook these speakers up to my TV?
Re:There are free real-time software encoders available (see doom9.org (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=06f6338d0ca999cc4170ff384a7c501c& threadid=76480&perpage=20&pagenumber=1)) but they are essentially limited to media playback at the mo' and not suitable for gaming. PCM is "pure digital", it is simply limited to stereo (can be matrixed for surround effects).
Re:Not possible. Without a soundcard that can output DD5.1 in a pure digital signal (Creative cards output a PCM signal), the GMX D-5.1s are essentially a 2 channel stereo setup.
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