Q: They will all be executed WinXP Professional. But the only problem is that the P2P network, so there is not a dedicated server. : (I want to be able to log onto the computers to install updates, do maintenance, etc. It would be nice if it could display on the client machine, such as Remote Desktop does.
Is there appears to be a way to do? My machine will use WinXP Professional also.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
How I understand it:
VNC takes a screenshot, compares it to the previous shot, and sends any difference (using compression). MS's remote desktop implementaiton actually does some rendering on the client side (which makes sense, given the X11 roots you mention). An implementation like that can always be made faster than a VNC-like implementation. That is the trick MS has up its sleeve.
I believe that they all send screen shots, but each is different on how they implement it. ICA metaframe sends screen redraw portion of what has been changed via mouse/keyboard movement, while RDP & RFB uses constant streaming method that redraw a screen completely.
On applications such as Words/Excel the screen remain constant, but the text changes ICA win hands down because it is optimizes for that purpose. ICA also include compression & non compression metaframe to best fit the client & server CPU speed.
On applications such as IE browser/Photoshop/image viewers RDP & RFB trample over ICA because it is optimizes for full screen redraw.
In the case of TightVNC RFB its algorithm is optimizes for a compromise between ICA & RDP, and the key feature of TightVNC is that its only redraw the complete screen when mouse cursor come to an arrest.
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Re:How I understand it:
VNC takes a screenshot, compares it to the previous shot, and sends any difference (using compression). MS's remote desktop implementaiton actually does some rendering on the client side (which makes sense, given the X11 roots you mention). An implementation like that can always be made faster than a VNC-like implementation. That is the trick MS has up its sleeve.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
I've been considering using RDP for remote management also. Is RDP or PCAnywhere even certified for use in that manner ? I mean, can you successfully do Windows Update online via RDP?
You are practically sitting at the keyboard. RDP is faster than the clones (pcanywhere, vnc) because MS has some tricks up its sleeves 
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edit: Though it doesn't like to let you actually reboot/shut down over RDP, at least from the start menu.
All protocal let you reboot/shutdown, but you can prevent that if the user desire.
MS RDP (Remote Desktop protocol 4.x/5.x) is a flavour of Citrix ICA (Independent Computing Architecture) which came from X11/DRI (Direct Rendering Interface), and VNC RFB (Remote Framebuffer) also uses X11/DRI. However, MS purchased the older version of ICA from Citrix & rebadge as RDP4 (RDP5 is a MS modification of RDP4/ICA) which is better than VNC/TightVNC, because ICA has been modified to utilizes low bandwidth compare to RFB. The newer ICA is even faster than MS RDP5.1, TightVNC is slightly slower than RDP but still is quicker than Remote Administrator or PCanywhere.
As for real world application Citrix & RDP is quick enough for running applications on the host machine, and TightVNC is just about as good as the latter 2 protocols because its mouse movement have been modify to response only when move (an improvement over VNC/realVNC). And, Remote Administrator or PCanywhere is design exactly for what it meant to be?occasional administration of the remote box.
In reality is that MS have no trick up its sleeve. They are just really good what they do best, and that is marketing.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
I've been considering using RDP for remote management also. Is RDP or PCAnywhere even certified for use in that manner ? I mean, can you successfully do Windows Update online via RDP?
You are practically sitting at the keyboard. RDP is faster than the clones (pcanywhere, vnc) because MS has some tricks up its sleeves .
edit: Though it doesn't like to let you actually reboot/shut down over RDP, at least from the start menu.
It DOES let you shurtdown/restart. Booting up requires a WOL command, and I have no idea what the format is….
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
I've been considering using RDP for remote management also. Is RDP or PCAnywhere even certified for use in that manner ? I mean, can you successfully do Windows Update online via RDP?
You are practically sitting at the keyboard. RDP is faster than the clones (pcanywhere, vnc) because MS has some tricks up its sleeves .
edit: Though it doesn't like to let you actually reboot/shut down over RDP, at least from the start menu.
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Re:I've been considering using RDP for remote management also. Is RDP or PCAnywhere even certified for use in that manner ? I mean, can you successfully do Windows Update online via RDP?
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Re:Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Does the router have to have the ports forwarded to a specific computer? If so that's bad since it doesn't have a really good firewall. Just a router, no server or anything.
Is there a way to do this but making sure it's secure?
you could remotely login to the router and forward the ports only for the time you will be remoting the pc's. Then un-forward all the ports when you are done.
That way you can make sure you have a good password on the router "remote mgmt" instead of whaterver (possibly weak) passwords the users will come up with on the pc's… (edit: also might wanna look into limiting the "remote mgmt" by ip)
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Re:Go here & download the BEFSR81 (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=155&scid=29) man page. On PDF page 24 it show you how to do IP & port range filtering (or page 41 & 42 of the man page). Port range filtering let you to set what port/s internal computer allow to communicate with the outside world. And, read the router log file to see what port is being use for incoming & out going trafics. If you really anal about firewall security.
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Re:These routers offer minimal protection regardless, and offer absolutely no outbound filtering, so you shouldn't need to worry anyway. If you are that paranoid, I'd suggest installation freeware Zonealarm on each machine.
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Re:Linksys BEFSR81 8 Port Switch with router. I know how to forward ports but the problem is that router is the only protection from the outside world. The computers just have antivirus on them, no firewall software.
Re:Can someone teach me how to set up Remote Desktop on Windows XP Pro and access it (http://{$MySite}/messageview.cfm?catid=34&threadid=1165556&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=)
What router do you have?
Post it here & we will try to help, but best to RTFM first so you know what to ask.
Re:Depends on the router of course, but most of the home/soho routers these days should be able to do this.
Re:Does the router have to have the ports forwarded to a specific computer? If so that's bad since it doesn't have a really good firewall. Just a router, no server or anything.
Is there a way to do this but making sure it's secure?Re:Does the router have to have the ports forwarded to a specific computer? If so that's bad since it doesn't have a really good firewall. Just a router, no server or anything.
Is there a way to do this but making sure it's secure?Re:i know its going to get asked.."How do I change the port?"
answer: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;306759
Re:use remote desktop, using different port for each computer.
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