Q: Last night I decided to set up WEP-128 encryption for my network, if I had not really hard to do it earlier. My router (Belkin F5D7230-4) worked fine. However, after I bridge my security settings to match that of the router, I could not get its web portal 192.168.2.225 (http://192.168.2.225) (Time-out access). The portal router (192.168.2.1 (http://192.168.2.1) works fine, but my network does not recognize the bridge at all. Ive tried hard resetting the router, but that did not work. Any advice?
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
I thought I had mentioned the model number in the OP. The bridge is a Belkin F5D7330.
Ah, you'd mentioned this in the summary, but since it's so similar to the router's model#, I'd just assumed it was a typo. This is different from what I'd assumed above — this is a client mode bridge. (And the .254 IP came from the manual for the router's WDS bridging, which doesn't apply to your bridge.)
How is your computer connected? To get to the router, I guess you have a physical connection to the router. If the bridging isn't working, then you need to physically connect to the bridge to access its management interface to check/change its settings. Here there could be a problem with DHCP — since you lost the bridge, you lost the DHCP connection to the main router, and then your local adapter might have lost an IP/subnet compatible with the bridge. If this is the problem, then to fix it, temporarily assign the computer a compatible static IP such as 192.168.2.250.
Then double-check your security settings between the main router and the bridge, even disable it perhaps as you're not really concerned about your neighbours, and try again.
Now, we still don't know your entire situation, so please adjust the advice / advise us accordingly.
I will try this tomorrow. Thank you.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
I thought I had mentioned the model number in the OP. The bridge is a Belkin F5D7330.
Ah, you'd mentioned this in the summary, but since it's so similar to the router's model#, I'd just assumed it was a typo. This is different from what I'd assumed above — this is a client mode bridge. (And the .254 IP came from the manual for the router's WDS bridging, which doesn't apply to your bridge.)
How is your computer connected? To get to the router, I guess you have a physical connection to the router. If the bridging isn't working, then you need to physically connect to the bridge to access its management interface to check/change its settings. Here there could be a problem with DHCP — since you lost the bridge, you lost the DHCP connection to the main router, and then your local adapter might have lost an IP/subnet compatible with the bridge. If this is the problem, then to fix it, temporarily assign the computer a compatible static IP such as 192.168.2.250.
Then double-check your security settings between the main router and the bridge, even disable it perhaps as you're not really concerned about your neighbours, and try again.
Now, we still don't know your entire situation, so please adjust the advice / advise us accordingly.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
can you ping that IP address?
Have you reset the bridge to factory defaults and try to start over?
Is the bridge functioning – is it bridging?
What are you trying to accomplish?
How can you say you've taken security off but you can't get to the mangement interface of the bridge? Are you doing this via telnet or a console connection? To take WEP off you have to do this on both ends – the router and the bridge.
Your post is very confusing, so post everything. Exact details.
As said in the OP, any pinging/connection attempts result in an "operation timed out" error message.
No I have not because I cannot access the bridge through its webportal where that option is. Hard resetting the device is accomplished by holding to the "reset" button on the back of the bridge for seven seconds. I've tried that several times, but it is ineffective. I have not reset the bridge to factory defaults, because I cannot reset the bridge to factory defaults (as far as I know, at least).
No, the bridge is not functioning; it is not bridging.
I am just trying to get my network to recognize the bridge so that I can use it.
What I did originally, was set WEP-128 on my router. I then accessed my bridge's management interface and turned on WEP from there. I entered everything as I had in the router, so I expected it to go along smoothly. As soon as I exited the portal (I only turned on WEP, nothing else), I could no longer gain access to it. I then tried turning off WEP on the router's end to see if it would allow me access, but it did not. What I assume has happened (hardly an educated guess) is that my bridge has WEP on, but it is not synced with my router; therefore, it is blocking any attempts for the router to connect with it because it identifies it as foreign. I have attempted access through my web browser and console. I can't take WEP off because I can only access the router.
I don't know the technicalities, so it is hard for me to be more exact. Sorry. If need be, give me instructions, and I will follow.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Where did the 192.168.2.225 address come from? Are you sure it isn't supposed to be 192.168.2.254?
WEP-128 is easily cracked these days is only good for keeping out people who aren't interested in making any effort. It won't keep out a bored and interested local kid. If your bridging supports WPA, then you should use that instead (with a long randomized key). It's no harder to set up than WEP.
Perhaps your bridging doesn't support WEP/WPA. Perhaps it doesn't support some other fancy feature that you recently turned on such as 125 HSM?
What's the model of the bridge device? If it's another F5D7230-4 or similar device, then failing resolution of the current setup, you could use a 3rd-party firmware for client bridge mode or (its WDS implementation)– once installed, this should be less troublesome and certainly allow WPA encryption.
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Flashing_the_Belkin_F5D7230-4
192.168.2.225 (http://192.168.2.225) is the IP of my bridge. I've used that to access my bridge from day one. The setup guide (PDF/136.5 KB) says so also. (http://web.belkin.com/support/download/files/F5D7330_Infrastructure.pdf)
I understand that WPA is more secure the WEP. In fact I was going to enable WPA until I discovered that the F5D7330 only supports WEP encryption. I am not to worried about anyone cracking my security. Where I live, my immediate neighbors and those in my neighborhood aren't the type to go around stealing internet connections.
The bridge only supports WEP-64/128. No WPA as stated above. My router and bridge do not support any form of "Super G" speed boosting, so 125 HSM was not an option.
I'm sorry. I thought I had mentioned the model number in the OP. The bridge is a Belkin F5D7330.
Re:Where did the 192.168.2.225 address come from? Are you sure it isn't supposed to be 192.168.2.254?
WEP-128 is easily cracked these days is only good for keeping out people who aren't interested in making any effort. It won't keep out a bored and interested local kid. If your bridging supports WPA, then you should use that instead (with a long randomized key). It's no harder to set up than WEP.
Perhaps your bridging doesn't support WEP/WPA. Perhaps it doesn't support some other fancy feature that you recently turned on such as 125 HSM?
What's the model of the bridge device? If it's another F5D7230-4 or similar device, then failing resolution of the current setup, you could use a 3rd-party firmware for client bridge mode or (its WDS implementation)– once installed, this should be less troublesome and certainly allow WPA encryption.
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Flashing_the_Belkin_F5D7230-4
Re:can you ping that IP address?
Have you reset the bridge to factory defaults and try to start over?
Is the bridge functioning – is it bridging?
What are you trying to accomplish?
How can you say you've taken security off but you can't get to the mangement interface of the bridge? Are you doing this via telnet or a console connection? To take WEP off you have to do this on both ends – the router and the bridge.
Your post is very confusing, so post everything. Exact details.
Re:If anyone needs more details, just ask.
Re:*bump*
Once again.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
It's most likely that your wep keys are incorrect. try without any security to rule that out.
use the hexidecimal key and make sure you get it right. somethings won't use a "passphase" as the key and need the hex.
I have numerous times turned off the WEP on the router, but I still could not access the bridge's webportal.
Re:It's most likely that your wep keys are incorrect. try without any security to rule that out.
use the hexidecimal key and make sure you get it right. somethings won't use a "passphase" as the key and need the hex.
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