Best Answer: First off, everything seems great. Although, you might want to consider getting 2 HDDs, one around 40-80GB and the other one around 120GB-1TB (as your prefer), then install your OS, and applications/programs on the smaller one then use the larger one for saving your Multimedia files (e.g. music, videos, photos etc.) and games or whatever data. And last but not least, get the second PSU (600W).
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Re:5700=Sux
Radeon 9800pro or GF 6600GT is absolute minimum for a decent gaming machine.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
I would have to dissagree on the SATA aspect.
SATA drives not only are higher quality/faster. They also increase airflow inside the case thus cooling the system more efficently.
If you check out http://storagereview.com/comparison.html you can get some specs on different HDD's Stay away from SCSI unless you are trying to build a server. (Or are indipendantly wealthy)
I started to post something similar, but I think the point that guy was making is that it does not require a driver for stock XP. My OS builds have the devices in the PnP path, but a general build may not recognize the controller out of the box. You need to do F6 and floppy action on install. Am I remembering that correctly?
BTW, if you do a new install, get SP2 or the critical fixes on a CD and install them BEFORE you plug this puppy onto the wire. If you are firewall-free, chances are you will get wormed before you can get the security updates.
Re:I would have to dissagree on the SATA aspect.
SATA drives not only are higher quality/faster. They also increase airflow inside the case thus cooling the system more efficently.
If you check out http://storagereview.com/comparison.html you can get some specs on different HDD's Stay away from SCSI unless you are trying to build a server. (Or are indipendantly wealthy)
Re:even if he is over clocking a 480w PS is overkill, a nice 430 would be fine
i recomend teh Antec Truepower 430 its a tank, my comp sucks more juics then thisone he is building will and its solid
I also agree on the comment about SATA, its not any better/faster then normal IDE, the cables are just smaller, if you want small cables then its fine, but there is no preformance diffrence
Re:That power supply isnt going to cut the mustard man, I'd go with at least 480 watts to be safe, more if overclocking
Re:Also, I would recommend the Antec SLK3700-BQE. Very nice box, roomy, easy to setup and saves you a few bucks.
Also, edit your original post with the changes you are making so we can all see where you are at.
Re:Originally posted by: Skorpio
But could this chaintech vid card, lets say play like doom 3 or half life 2 on the highest settings?
No, you would need a least something like a FX 5900 and that would still be hurtin.
Re:if you can find a single 1GB stick that is the price of two 512MB sticks, then get it, and tell me where you got it. if you really want to run socket 939, then get two 512MB sticks, but if you want to run 754 (recomended) then get a single 1GB stick, if it doesn't cost any more than two 512's. the reason is that you can push a single chip to much better speeds/ latency than you can with two of the same chip.
Re:thx guys for the comments / suggestions
Is there a huge noticible difference of dual channel 2×512 compared to just buying one stick of 1GB?
I dont do OC though, I might…..
The 939 and 754 comparsion, I think Im sticking with the 939.
But could this chaintech vid card, lets say play like doom 3 or half life 2 on the highest settings?
Re:If you are a gamer, but not so hardcore then I would go with a 9800 Pro. It's a great midrange card, though you would be limited by your vid card then. I have one and it runs Doom3, UT2k4, etc just fine.
Re:That's quite valid. A 754 system is probably better with regards to price/performance ratio if you don't upgrade components very often (I'd assume that since you've used your P3 rig for 6 years), but if you do plan to migrate to NF4/PCIe/whatever very quickly, you may still want to consider a 939 chip.
If you want to overclock the 9800 Pro as much as you can (without modifying yourself), I believe there is one with an oversized cooler (a VGA Silencer) preinstalled for around $240. I don't remember the manufacturer off-hand, though.
Re:i would suggest saving your money and buying a chaintec VNF3-250 motherboard (socket 754) and an athlon 64 2800+ CPU. socket 939 isn't all it's put up to be, and going from 754 to 939 usually only yields a 5% increase in performance. get the 2800 because all of those cores overclock to the same speed (they all use the same core. actually) as long as you get the newcastle variant (very important). like balt said, ditch the costly ram, and buy some good old value ram. corsair value select is good, and i was planning on getting this really cheap A-DATA stuf, but i am not sure if thats a good idea. Pick up a really nice video card, the 6800/ 6800GT's are nice if you have the money, and a 9800 pro overclocks well. if you are willing to take some chances a 9800SE can usually softmod into a 9800Pro, and will come much more cheaply. if you get the 9800SE get the one from powercolor that ends with C3 in the model number.
good luck.
Re:what is the right kind? the 184 pin one?:o…ahaha I see…thx guys for correcting that:)
Re:Yeah buddy DONT BUY THAT RAM ITS DDR2 240 PIN. You need DDR 184 pin, and if you want best performance/overclocking get TCCD ram or Ballistix.
Re:Thanks anubis & balt for your great suggestions…I dont know about shelling out 300+ for a 6800…as much as I like gaming….Im not that hardcore though…haha…the 512 is a good idea….thinking about that…thx
Re:Yes, get cheaper RAM (and the right kind too–you're linking to ECC DDR2). 2 sticks of Corsair Value is good.
You should be fine with the stock cooler on that if you're not overclocking too much.
For a gaming video card: 9800 Pro, 6800 NU, or 6800 GT, according to budget. If necessary, get the new 90nm 3000+ or 3200+ instead of the 3500+.
(edit: Oh yes, and don't bother with SATA right now–not worth the extra cost or the headaches for newbies.)
Re:Originally posted by: Skorpio
Gaming / DVD Shrinking? (Changing AVI to DVD). Thx for the comments / suggestions
Sorry Im a newbie, but what is this talk about 2X512, I know that you could buy 2X512, but is that like buying two 512MB ram sticks?
yes 2 512 meg sticks of ram
Re:for gameing you definitly want a better video card, definitly go with a 6800GT
id also add another HDD if you can
no the AMD cpus run COOLER then the P4s the stock fan on it will be fine, if you plan on overclocking you should invest in a better HS and fan
that case comes with 2 80mm exaust fans that is good, i recomend getting at least 1 80mm intake fan to put in teh space for it, 2 is better but louder, if you go with a panaflow (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-180-014&depa=1) they are quiet
Re:Gaming / DVD Shrinking? (Changing AVI to DVD). Thx for the comments / suggestions
Sorry Im a newbie, but what is this talk about 2X512, I know that you could buy 2X512, but is that like buying two 512MB ram sticks?
Re:yes get the raqm guy suggested and get 2×512 of it so you can run dual channel
and spend teh extra money on a 6800 or 6800GT
Re:What are you planning on using this computer for?
If gaming, get some cheaper ram (1GB DDR400-3200 Corsair Value Select 2.5cl for ~$150-160) and spend the rest on a stronger video card.
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