Q: looking for something without a fan or low fan speed which does not sound for a PC Im building . The owner had a rather low-end Dell and you could see the hard drive on the fans (it was so quiet!)
so Im looking for an upgrade to a better machine to hear – but keep a low noise
Best Answer: Here Ya go
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as…
Nice and quiet+ has a $20.00 rebate
or just browse for yourself here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis…
Yeah JimPetti…Is also right, OOOPS you will need to check your factor. ATX, Micro ATX for the size..
Don't wanna get a PSU that dosen't fit…
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Re:Ahhh, thanks guys. I think I get it now. True that is pretty weak as far as it's 12v output, and I see what you're saying about combined wattage. I like this idea of hacking together two cheap units. Maybe 2 decent 500's to get close enough to power a good SLI rig without spending a fortune. They make commercial products to do this even.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5534/…dapter_and91ULT40011.html?tl=g11#blank (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5534/psu-302/Ultra_Dual_Power_Supply_Adapter_and91ULT40011.html ?tl=g11#blank)
Anyway I just found probably the best info on power supplies on the net. Might be a bit dated but still great reading!
http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardwar…ower-supply-information-selection.html (http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/motherboards-bios-cpu/107466-power-supply-information-selection.html)
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
Hey why is this one no good? 680w for $19.99… Ok, well, what is technically wrong with it?
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=APGD680&cat=PWR
Well first off, it only has 22A total on the 12V rail. And that's according to their specs (probably inflated). The 12V rail is the one that counts most for modern PCs. So that PSU would be named a 250W or 300W PSU by any respectable manufacturer. Except it probably has lots of other nasty goodies hidden under the lid so it wouldn't come from any respectable manuf. You can clearly see that it's just marketing misinfo when they name the PSU.
Trying to buy a power supply myself currently btw.
So read around here awhile first, before you buy the wrong one.
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Re:Look at this PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817147034), if you're looking guy.
Most PSUs have a maximum combined load on the 3.3v and 5v, i.e. you can't reach maximum amperage on both voltages at the same time, their usage counts towards each other. Kinda like, you can have an hour long shower in either bathroom in your house, but if both are being used at once… neh? Also remember computer power supplies are switching, as in they only draw as much as thier load, a 500w PSU doesn't consumer 500w all the time.
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Re:Hey why is this one no good? 680w for $19.99… Ok, well, what is technically wrong with it?
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=APGD680&cat=PWR
I get some idea from this.
http://www.futurehardware.in/568976.htm
From this I figured it had something to do with a total draw from devices at a voltage.
I thought the specs were supposed to add up to the watts which they don't.
For reference here is an example of a mainstream power supply. A 600w costing $100.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148025
It says it has
+3.3V@34A, +5V@36A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@20A, -5V@0.3A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
That's over 748 on the first 4 "rails" (umm what's a rail anyway?)
I guess I really don't get power supplies or why they cost so much compared to the made in china special. Can someone help explain it? I even have this book called "Building the perfect PC" and it doesn't have anything to say about power supplies besides you need one. It doesn't mention or explain the amps volts, or quality.
Trying to buy a power supply myself currently btw.
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Re:Coolmax CP-500T is still $40 right now…
why any debate 
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Re:Go with the FSP. I've built countless machines for friends with that same PSU and never had any problems. Quiet and reliable sums it up.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
Investment wise spending another 30-40 bucks for something thats gonna run below 80 percent seems like a good idea. Even if its efficiency is good at 300 watts your gonna run out of room to grow faster than you can shake a stick at. Adding multiple HDs and fans and the like will eventually eat up those 300 watts. Smart money looks long term, not just today.
Wrong.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
i just picked up one of these FSP units (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104031) for a build that is sitting on the kitchen table – damn thing is near silent
That would be my choice. Indeed I've purchased three of those (and two of the 400W versions of the "GLN").
Originally posted by: guy
looking for something fanless or low speed fan
Do not go fanless. I still have an Antec Phantom that is now just a test PSU because it wasn't suitable for constant use.
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Re:Investment wise spending another 30-40 bucks for something thats gonna run below 80 percent seems like a good idea. Even if its efficiency is good at 300 watts your gonna run out of room to grow faster than you can shake a stick at. Adding multiple HDs and fans and the like will eventually eat up those 300 watts. Smart money looks long term, not just today.
Re:Good, cheap, quiet should never be in the same sentence regarding a PSU!
Re:Originally posted by: guy
For years I had been buying cheaper PSUs and it eventually cought up to me. I lost some hardware when a antec SM blew on me. I have since bought a Corsair H520 that was on sale for 99 bucks, its made by Seasonic and will last you a really long time and is really stable and smooth and runs really cool to boot. Putting a cheapo PSU in your new computer is like putting a yugo engine in a lexus, sure its gonna move you for a while but eventually its gonna let you down.
Don't confuse cheap with junk. The 330 watt S12 is built on the same design and uses the same high quality components (just smaller variants) as the 500+ watt units. If you only need 200-250 watts DC (the vast majority of the systems here) there isn't anything that the 500 watt unit will do that the 330 will besides cost you more money.
The same can be said for many of the lower wattage FSP units and the 80+ units from Enhance.
Re:For years I had been buying cheaper PSUs and it eventually cought up to me. I lost some hardware when a antec SM blew on me. I have since bought a Corsair H520 that was on sale for 99 bucks, its made by Seasonic and will last you a really long time and is really stable and smooth and runs really cool to boot. Putting a cheapo PSU in your new computer is like putting a yugo engine in a lexus, sure its gonna move you for a while but eventually its gonna let you down.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
Enhance ENP-5150G ATX – 500W (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-EN5150G) @ $64 + shipping
Enhance ENP-5240G ATX – 400W (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-EN5240G) @ $46 + shipping
SILVERSTONE SST-ST365 ATX – 360W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817163110) @ $35 + shipping
FSP Group (Fortron Source) ATX – 350W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104901) @ $29 + shipping
Anything less then this & you can forget the "GOOD" part unless you buy used off FS/FT.
I would include power supplies from Seasonic in this list, but they are not "cheap".
..at one time Sparkle was a favorite out here.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
Define "cheap"
< $40
this isn't a performance system, just a simple 3.4P4/HT, 1 hard drive, and a smallish ATI 1600 video card… it's still lightyears faster than the older Celeron 2.0Ghz w. onboard video A 300W PSU would be plenty for your system. There's plenty of good cheap ones from FSP, Sparkle, the Silverstone that Capitante mentioned is good but you don't even need that much power…
just don't get conned into buying a 500W PSU.
I couldn't agree more. :thumbsup:
The 300 watt Enhance ENP-5130GH (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-E5130GH) is one of the best 300 watt PSUs available, and has plenty of power for your build.
Re:i just picked up one of these FSP units (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104031) for a build that is sitting on the kitchen table – damn thing is near silent
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
Define "cheap"
< $40
this isn't a performance system, just a simple 3.4P4/HT, 1 hard drive, and a smallish ATI 1600 video card… it's still lightyears faster than the older Celeron 2.0Ghz w. onboard video A 300W PSU would be plenty for your system. There's plenty of good cheap ones from FSP, Sparkle, the Silverstone that Capitante mentioned is good but you don't even need that much power…
just don't get conned into buying a 500W PSU.
Re:This! (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817189012)
edit: well, for quiet.
generally cheapest i'd go for is this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159040
which right now meets your price.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
Define "cheap"
< $40
this isn't a performance system, just a simple 3.4P4/HT, 1 hard drive, and a smallish ATI 1600 video card… it's still lightyears faster than the older Celeron 2.0Ghz w. onboard video
Go with the Silverstone 360 watt (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817163110) … $43.01 Shipped from Newegg
Re:Originally posted by: guy
I would include power supplies from Seasonic in this list, but they are not "cheap".
Of course … I have a 700 watt Seasonic in my main PC for just that reason, but it cost a lot closer to $200 then $100.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Define "cheap"
< $40
this isn't a performance system, just a simple 3.4P4/HT, 1 hard drive, and a smallish ATI 1600 video card… it's still lightyears faster than the older Celeron 2.0Ghz w. onboard video
Re:I have a Sunbeamtech NUUO, and its very silent for a PSU with 2 fans.
Re:I would add Chill power supplies to that list.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
A lot of that was the case. Dell has some very nice, quiet cases. I'd look in that direction for quieting a pc.
Cases can only be as quiet as the components inside. True some cases are better at dampening noise, but the fans play a bigger part in noise than the case does. If you open up the dell case you'll find it still isn't noisy inside.
A case is only as quiet as the fans inside it. Don't expect to be able to put your 110CFM fans in that "quiet" case and have it silent
Re:A lot of that was the case. Dell has some very nice, quiet cases. I'd look in that direction for quieting a pc.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Enhance ENP-5150G ATX – 500W (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-EN5150G) @ $64 + shipping
Enhance ENP-5240G ATX – 400W (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-EN5240G) @ $46 + shipping
SILVERSTONE SST-ST365 ATX – 360W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817163110) @ $35 + shipping
FSP Group (Fortron Source) ATX – 350W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104901) @ $29 + shipping
Anything less then this & you can forget the "GOOD" part unless you buy used off FS/FT.
I would include power supplies from Seasonic in this list, but they are not "cheap".
Re:Enhance ENP-5150G ATX – 500W (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-EN5150G) @ $64 + shipping
Enhance ENP-5240G ATX – 400W (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-EN5240G) @ $46 + shipping
SILVERSTONE SST-ST365 ATX – 360W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817163110) @ $35 + shipping
FSP Group (Fortron Source) ATX – 350W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104901) @ $29 + shipping
Anything less then this & you can forget the "GOOD" part unless you buy used off FS/FT.
Re:Define "cheap"
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