Q: What is this? ()
Its in many cases, and Ive never seen it used. Most of the time they are stuck in beige and the bottom edge of the inside of a case, usually varying sizes.
Ive never paid attention to them, just wondering what they? It is not one fan holder or nothing: confused:
BTW, this is an Antec 1030xb
Best Answer: Ok to firstly build a computer you need the following
Case With A Decent Sized Power Supply
If you using it for hardcore graphics and gaming etc… i would recommend a 600-650w PSU
now to start the fun stuff
you need the Motherboard AKA Mainboard
i wouldnt touch midi i would recommend full ATX if you using it for that stuff so you can go all out with SLI which means multiple graphics cards and cooling and more slots and upgrade capacity
ASUS and GIGABYTE would be the best to look at for the components
www.asus.com.tw
www.gigabyte.com.tw
CPU now this is where i would recommend AMD over INTEL Anyday reason being INTEL has there new Quad Core which is supposed to be fast right and is fast but!
AMD is one step ahead and always is when it comes to graphics with there SSE4a instructions which intel aint got yet and VIVO plus 3D Gaming Gears and just took ATI out which is just as big as NVIDIA.
I would pick up either a AMD Phenom formally know as a AMD Spider – there red back would do the job nicely which is the 9600 however the widdow spider the 9500 has a few tricks up its sleave to with SSE4a instructions 3DNow ATI integration. very very very fast system bus, but low cache. but it will eat the Intel Quad Core any day. the quad core intel is really 2x core 2 duos in one where as the phenon aka spider has 4 single cores which makes it the first true quad core.
so i would say CPU = Phenom 9500 or 9600
i would say the 3.0GHZ quad core but that aint released yet
ok Hard Disk Drives
i would say western digital over seagate anyday because they have never died on me before. maxtor being the worse and seagate ok but Western Digital all the way when it comes to hard disk drives. now i would hit up a 500gb hdd being 3.0Gb/s on sata 2 with 7200RPM and 16MB cache however if you want faster there is always the raptor which is 10000rpm but max hdd size is 150gb but then you can use it for a master with the os and a storage 500gb on raid array 01 which will be quite nice
now we up to RAM
kingston or corsair all the way in brands
probably 2gb will do but i would hit up 4gb on 1066/1333fsb which ECC and High latency.
now your motherboard has to be SLI and has to be PCI Express or it aint ****, it will have sata and stuff too make sure it supports 1333fsb + and x16speed pcie
etc…
graphics to be honust i love nvidia ok. but it really comes down to what OS – operating system you got now.
yeah nvidia has drivers for vista but i would install vista to be honust its like the second version of Windows Millenium microsoft made the mistake of building the operating system on BETA software to start with and its just not compatible with this and that and hardware manufactures are screaming writing drivers to suite it and its just one big headache and full of bugs if you ask me
XP all the way with SP3 integrated for the latest updates and vista themes etc… however make sure it pro with direct x 9.0L which is basically direct x 10 in vista windows xp calls it Direct x 9.0L which is the same as 10 in vista.
now if your xp go NVIDIA Geforce 8800GTS Ultra
if your VISTA go for ATIs latest and greatest because ATI is right up with VISTA and NVIDIA had a fall out with them
but still has the drivers
thats gonna really show up nice go either 1GB video card or 768 even x2 512 on SLI its up to you you can bridge 4 if you want together and get up to 8GB processing out of a good mainboard with Quad Core And Quad SLI CPU AND GPU
now sound is usually good enough on board unless you want serious sound then ya hit up a Creative sound blaster X-FI platnium champ serious 24bit they are top top atm
mainboard usually got all the rest of the goodies like
10/100/1000 ethernet lan which is the fastest atm
and
8-10usbs at 480mb/s which is good until usb 3 comes out.
and sound usually 5.1 or 7.1 these days standard.
ummmmmmmmmmm what else
go all out with cooling . Aftermarket **** cause AMD spider fan is **** all to be honust but does the job if you aint overclocking it like me.
thermaltake and stuff like that make good fans. gigabyte and asus too. dont touch deep cool. hahah
now roms – LITEON all the way only ones that actually do **** right + CD+Gs too go sata all the way
BIOS i would recommend one with a Phoneix or AWARD bios nun that AMI ****
chipset if AMD i would hit up NVIDIA if im going for a nvidia card or SIS or VIA. i like VIA the best if i dont put a NVIDIA graphics card. if your going ATI either SIS or VIA will do for the spider i mean either will work but you will see what i mean if you get a Nvidia and put a ATI. they will cross hair each other without you knowing it.
remember cooling is very important
if your hot you wont run or perform your best either.
try taking the cpu off a computer and see the performance
if it cant breathe or cool its gonna sleep or die in the bum
anything else you wanna know add me to messenger
skylines_australia@hotmail.com
or i check up on this post.
good luck
if you need anything i can sell it to you cheap cause im a qualified computer engineer/tech and do programming, software and networking on the side too.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
It's a full length card holder. If you have a full length card, it will be too long to be supported (held) by just you slot (ISA, PCI etc) so you attach that thing in your case and put the end of the card in one or the ridges to keep it from sagging and working loose. You can't get any full length cards at the consumer level anymore, so dont worry about it. The only full length cards that I have seen in the last few years were
an advanced RAID disk controller from DTP with onboard hardware cache
a professional sound card
a semi-professional video capture card with onboard MPEG compression
A full length card is about 13 inches long… I think… here are some (http://www.hotektech.com/yedpcisamaxi.htm) pictures (http://www.bsdmall.com/voiclogcar.html) of full length cards.
You can usually mount a case fan behind one of those as well…
Exactly. I just bought a hardware RAID 5 card, and it is full-length, I think possibly the only full-length card I've ever had! (For my home systems at least).
Re:Back in the day, there were systems with ISA(16bit) and EISA(32bit) even before PCI and especially the EISA cards could get really long so they had to make them more stable in the mobo by placing holders in the case. My old VLB Video card was really long too but it didn't even touch the holder.
Re:yep full lenght card holder, i've only needed them with isa telophony cards and hardware pci raid controllers
Re:It's a full length card holder. If you have a full length card, it will be too long to be supported (held) by just you slot (ISA, PCI etc) so you attach that thing in your case and put the end of the card in one or the ridges to keep it from sagging and working loose. You can't get any full length cards at the consumer level anymore, so dont worry about it. The only full length cards that I have seen in the last few years were
an advanced RAID disk controller from DTP with onboard hardware cache
a professional sound card
a semi-professional video capture card with onboard MPEG compression
A full length card is about 13 inches long… I think… here are some (http://www.hotektech.com/yedpcisamaxi.htm) pictures (http://www.bsdmall.com/voiclogcar.html) of full length cards.
You can usually mount a case fan behind one of those as well…
Re:Actually guy, I have a case where the holder thingie also accepts fans so you're not completely wrong.
Re:It's a card holder thingie for really long pci cards. Back in the really old ISA days, there were often cards that were humongeous by modern standards. Even things like hard drive controllers and modems were huge way back when. About the only things this big nowadays are the fancy video cards (like ones that have hardware raytracing support) and certain scientific data acquisition cards. May be a few other things that I don't know about.
Re:I feel ripped off because I didn't get that piece with my case. Although I probably wouldn't use it.
Sorry guy, I stand corrected or at least sit corrected
Re:Originally posted by: MistaEng
Well, Jryugen from this thread (http://{$MySite}/messageview.cfm?catid=37&threadid=833280) says its for extra long professional video cards…Correct.
Re:So card holder, anyone know? For longer PCI cards?
<— is bored today 
Entropy:
It's not a fan holder or anything 
Re:According to the Antec diagram, it is a "card guide". I have absolutely no idea what that means, or what it does.
Antec Diagram (pdf) (http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/exp/plus660.pdf)
Re:I believe that is a fan mounting mechanism. It's nice because you don't need screw. I have a few of them in my 1040b
Re:Well, Jryugen from this thread (http://{$MySite}/messageview.cfm?catid=37&threadid=833280) says its for extra long professional video cards…
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